Pam Geller via Dimensional bliss

Pam and those like her bring up uncomfortable truths and for that they will be forever hated.

Fiver shrugs and the silence of the Warren DaTechGuy Blog December 29th 2011

The primary virtue is courage, because without it all other virtues are quickly abandoned under pressure and Pam Geller is a woman of courage. She has persisted in warning of the Dangers of radical Islam and highlighting said dangers to a world that would like to pretend painful realities are not taking place playing Jeremiah to the west and like Jeremiah these warning have come with a high cost in terms of her personal safety. Other people get death threats, Pam Geller (and friend Robert Spencer) get actual attempts on their lives:

A Massachusetts man was convicted [in October 2017] of plotting to behead conservative blogger Pamela Geller and kill other Americans on behalf of the Islamic State group.
Jurors found David Wright guilty of all charges, including conspiracy to provide material support to a designated foreign terrorist organization and conspiracy to commit acts of terrorism transcending national boundaries. . . .
Prosecutors said Wright, his uncle and a third man conspired to kill Geller because they were upset she organized Prophet Muhammad cartoon contest in Texas in 2015. During the contest, two other men opened fire outside and wounded a security guard before they were killed in a shootout with law enforcement assigned to guard the event.

There was a time of course when an attempt on an American’s life for exercising 1st amendment rights would unite all Americans in outrage, just as there was once a time when the American press would have been outraged that an American Citizen like Molly Norris would have to go into hiding after a fatwa was put out against her (she remains in hiding under an assumed name to this day) but just as the media ignored the threats against one of their own, after Garland Terrorist attack the reaction of the media was to blame Pam for daring to upset those who wanted her dead.

Mind you ISIS itself boasted they had specifically targeted Geller saying:

“sent its Lions to achieve [Geller’s] slaughter.”

But no matter, the left hates Pam for telling the truth more than they hate ISIS so as far as they were concerned It was her own damn fault.  That’s why

Which brings us to the Daily beast story that I haven’t had the time to deal with until now.

Pam has four daughters who I haven’t had the pleasure of meeting. Until a few days ago I had no knowledge of them beyond that fact but now apparently the left has decided they need more attention.

You see they apparently had a show on Instagram called “The Morning Breath and once the daily beast found out that the hosts of this popular show were Pam daughters that just couldn’t stand.

So the beast outed them and very quickly the network carrying their show cancelled it, the companies sponsoring the popular show abandoned them and even their agents dropped them.

Supposedly this is over tweets made at the age of 16 but I say there is a different reason.


You see these sponsors understand that if it is known that they are sponsoring Pam’s Children makes them targets.  After all the same jihadists who have been unsuccessful so far in killing Pam will likely target her children considering them a softer target but and even softer target than them might be the various advertisers or even the studio that hosts them.

The line for public consumption is this is all about “bigotry”.  It’s really all about self preservation.

That’s why I think Stacy McCain is slightly off in his statement although he put it well.

No one should be deceived by the Left’s propaganda. Any conservative who is hesitant to defend Pamela Geller (they think she is “extremist” or whatever) is a fool. The reason Geller is under attack is because she is effective and influential, especially in exposing the Left’s sordid de facto alliance with radical Islam. Geller is a ferocious fighter, and we cannot afford to lose her. If we let the Left silence our most powerful voices, what shall become of the rest of us? Who will defend our right to free speech?

Like I keep saying, people need to wake the hell up.

He’s right about a defacto alliance between radical Islam and the left in the sense that Christianity is a common target, but I submit what it’s really about is the sponsors and the daily beast and all the rest operating under the “I don’t have to outrun the bear, I just have to outrun you” theory of survival.  It’s full tilt narcissism, why bother to fight radical Islam, defend women overseas oppressed by it, screen for possible terrorists coming in or even try to stop the radicalization of Muslims here in the US or even argue against Sharia law.  Hell these Muslim folks might even be the ticket for my party to regain power.  By the time Islam is able to affect my life negatively I’ll be long dead. So let my political enemies take these risks defending America for the sake of their country and children and if these fools who I hate anyways die at their hands, so much the better.

I believe the Daily Beast did this not because they disbelieve in the threat of radical Islam as they claim, but because they do.

In my opinion that’s why the Daily Beast had no compunction about outing Pam’s Daughters because as far as the left in general and they in particular are concerned, if they are murdered by the same Islamist terrorists that have targeted their mother, that’s a bug not a feature.

This tweet alas remains true

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Remember five years ago when Pam Geller talked about the murder of Jessica Mokdad and her mother backed by the MSM insisted her daughter’s murder was not an honor killing and we saw posts like this from the righteous left:

The Jessica Mokdad Story: Family of Deceased Girl Doesn’t Want Pamela Geller Pimpin’ Their Daughter’s Name For Islamophobic Agenda


But now Jessica’s mother has contacted me to confirm that it was indeed an honor killing and to thank me for standing for her daughter.

She Facebook-messaged me:

My daughter is Jessica mom dad and she was killed by her step father a muslim from Iraq, in Warren, Michigan. I was muslim at that time, but I felt I was brain washed into it. I’m a Christian again Thank JESUS! I believe you had a meeting here in Dearborn in 2011. I wish I was thinking then the way I do now. I’d like to thank you for all u do! I hate Islam and everything it stands for! I was in in for 16 years! I regret every minute! God bless you and all u do!

We always knew this to be true, but now the Muslims and leftists who complained about my event are exposed as liars.

You see Jessica’s mom has left Islam and has returned to her Catholic faith and is now free to speak of things as they are

Wendy concluded: “I thank God every day I’m not in that relationship anymore.” She gave me some advice for other women who convert to Islam and marry Muslims: “I’m totally against it. They have no idea what they’re in for. I don’t care what they tell you. They can sweet-talk you, they can promise you the world, but that’s all going to change mighty fast … either when they marry you or get you pregnant, or whatever else, you know?” Wendy told one woman considering marrying an Egyptian Muslims, “Being with a Muslim person is not what you think. Believe me, I poured my heart and soul into every text to, you know, try to reason with her, to try to save her. I told her, it’ll be the worst mistake of your entire life if you go over there and marry him.”

We should pray for not only her but for all those who have been victimized like this.

Closing thought. I strongly suspect the leftist sites that lionized her will be as anxious to do so again as the Vatican will be to have her speak as a Catholic revert at a conference on Islam.

One of the things I’ve written about in the past is the willingness of the left to ignore Islam’s positions on Homosexuality and Gay Marriage, apparently a big part of it, at least in Australia is tactical:

Last night on ABC’s The Drum, Ali Kadri, spokesman for the Islamic Council of Queensland and the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils, said his community was stuck with the choice of offending allies or siding with critics, and the result had been silence.

“Unfortunately, in the current climate, the right and conservative side has attacked Muslims as terrorists and extremists, and naturally the left side has been allies in defending us for a long period of time,” he said.

“We are afraid if we come out with our opinion then the left may abandon us for going against their view and we can’t be friendly with the conservatives because they have been bashing us for 15, 20 years every chance they get … and that includes some Christian sects as well.”

Or to rephrase, we don’t want to do anything to make the useful idiots any less useful.

Pam Geller phrases it bluntly

They understand the war better than the kufar. The left has been doing their dirty work for well over a decade now. Why agitate the agitators and knaves doing the heavy lifting in the spread of Islam and sharia? When the time comes, the left will be dealt with in much the same manner as the rest of the unbelievers.

They don’t only understand the war, they understand that the Common Thread of the Left is hatred of Christianity and any kind of alliance with devout Christians in Australia or anywhere else will outrage the left more than any amount of sermons against Homosexuality or gays thrown off roofs. I think Robert Spencer has this nailed:

Muslims who are concerned about their opposition to homosexuality causing them to risk losing the support from “the left side” may have nothing to worry about, if the Pride Parade in Vancouver is any indication of where the loyalties of the “left side” lie. The absurdity of a gay Muslim being rejected for opposing the human rights abuses justified by Sharia is astonishing. Opposing gays will likely be tolerated by “the left side.” As a result of the aggressive “Islamophobia” campaign, the only religion that cannot and must not be challenged, no matter what, is Islam, even when that challenge is coming from progressive Muslims. Last year, Facebook banned a gay magazine critical of Islam.

His piece on the pride parade in Vancouver WA speaks volumes.

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British Police have named Saman Abedi as the Terrorist suicide bomber caused  the mass murder of Children in England after an Ariana Grande concert in Manchester and it’s reported that another person has been detained in connection to the attack.

As I watch the usual suspects are sounding the same, the phrases “Lone Wolf”,  Islamophobia , love vs hate, and doing all it can to take the Islam out of the latest example of Islamic Terror.

Of course England has done its part to purge the Islam from Islamic Terror, by banning Pam Geller who today noted about the attacker in Manchester:

Just like the neighbors of San Bernadino jihad mass murderers, neighbors noticed strange goings-on at the house of the jihadis, but didn’t alert authorities for fear of being labeled racist-islamophobic-anti-Muslim-bigots.

and Robert Spencer who wrote this on Manchester:

UK: Manchester jihad mass murderer known to authorities but “not thought to pose immediate threat”

They thought wrong. Why? Because they don’t have the first foggiest clue about what motivates these people, and what their goals are. So how can they possibly evaluate who is an “immediate threat” and who isn’t? They have to discount so much evidence that someone may be an “immediate threat” because to acknowledge the importance of that evidence would be “Islamophobic,” they’re left with nothing to go on.

While their exclusion from England, Ironically promulgated by the current prime minister Theresa May when she was home secretary, along with others like Michael Savage has drawn the approval of many media and cultural elites has been effective in preventing people from hearing their warning concerning Islamic Terror has been less than effective at preventing people from being killed by it.

Mark Steyn notes the contrast in tactics and results in England vs elsewhere

Poland and Hungary and Slovakia do not have Islamic terrorism because they have very little Islam. France and Germany and Belgium admit more and more Islam, and thus more and more terrorism. Yet the subject of immigration has been all but entirely absent from the current UK election campaign. Thirty years ago, in the interests of stopping IRA terrorism, the British state was not above preventing the internal movement within its borders of unconvicted, uncharged, unarrested Republican sympathizers seeking to take a ferry from Belfast to Liverpool. Today it declares it can do nothing to prevent the movement of large numbers of the Muslim world from thousands of miles away to the heart of the United Kingdom. It’s just a fact of life – like being blown up when you go to a pop concert.

But while Britian’s current tactics might not be generating fear in the hearts of potential terrorists as evidenced by this announcement:

British police arrested someone in connection with last night’s attack. Now they have intelligence that a second attack may be impending, pushing the terror threat level to “critical” for the first time in 10 years. How big is this cell?

The practical effect of raising the threat level is that the British military will be deployed to support the police in guarding “key sites” around the country. That’s not going to make libertarians happy, but luckily for Theresa May there aren’t many of those left in the UK.

it has successfully put the fear of being considered “Islamophobic” in the minds and hearts of the potential victims of said terror.

Alas what I wrote in 2011 continues to remain true:

Pam and those who warn of Radical Islam are Fiver calling for help for those caught in a snare. Her detractors are Cowslip the head of the snared warren. To oppose radical Islam requires a courage they don’t have and to openly admit appeasement acknowledges a cowardice they can’t bear. Much easier to not talk about it and preserve their illusion of dignity.

Pam and those like her bring up uncomfortable truths and for that they will be forever hated.

Or to put it another way.  The end of Islamic Terror will be in sight when we love our children more than we fear being called “Islamophobic”.

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Just after the Islamic Terror attack on the gay nightclub Pulse, Facebook, you know those guys who insist they are not censoring conservatives, decided to take strong action…against one of the most prominent opponents and a onetime target of Islamic terror Pam Geller

When Breitbart News and Geller objected they followed up by suspending Geller herself.

Just hours after they removed her 50,000-strong group, “Stop Islamization Of America,” Facebook has issued prominent Islam critic Pamela Geller with a 30-day ban.

Well apparently Facebook has discovered that such actions directed against a person targeted for assassination by Islamic Terrorists in response to her critique of the mass slaughter of Gays by an islamic terrorist not only tends to draw unfavorable press but really doesn’t play well with a large segment of the population.

You spoke — you wrote, emailed, called, and YOU succeeded in getting my page and my privileges back. THANK YOU and thank Breitbart for raising a ruckus. Communicating and sharing information is the key to building an army of Davids to defeat the enormous enemedia myths and lies. Each one of my readers is a one-man media organization educating those in your sphere of influence. This is a war on freedom of speech in the age of jihad and sharia. And Facebook is key.

Now this would be just another story about a company backing off after a bad decision but what really got my goat was this quote from Breitbart’s coverage of Facebook’s volte face of the email Facebook sent to Pam after the reinstatement of both groups.

“A member of our team accidentally removed something you posted on Facebook. This was a mistake, and we sincerely apologize for this error. We’re since restored the content and you should now be able to see it.”

I don’t know what bothers me more, the sheer mendacity of that statement or the insult to my intelligence required to expect me to believe it.

On the bright side it’s very nice of Facebook for doing their best to turn my decision not to join facebook into a positive virtue.

Closing question:

I do not wish to think, or speak, or write, with moderation. . . . I am in earnest — I will not equivocate — I will not excuse — I will not retreat a single inch — AND I WILL BE HEARD.

William Lloyd Garrison

This post was originally scheduled for Tuesday at 1 PM with the Brussels attacks I’ve moved it to today I’d like to segregate the words I wrote Monday before I expand on them in light of the Brussels attack, first my original words…


Monday we wrote about the reality of Islam in Europe
Today Barack Obama is in Cuba, praising a brutal dictatorship in a way that I never thought I’d see a US president do in my lifetime.

And the Cuban government is, well being themselves:

The Center for a Free Cuba just received information directly from Cuba that Berta Soler, the leader of the Ladies in White, and her husband, former political prisoner Angel Moya, a few minutes ago were detained by Cuba’s political police.

Ms. Soler is one of the Cubans that President Obama is expected to meet. Apologists for the regime have said that no only she is a counterrevolutionary and an enemy of the people, but an ungrateful black woman.

Many Cubans have wondered publicly about the irony of a black American President meeting with a white Cuban military oligarchy that keeps most Cuban blacks at the very bottom of the economy. The majority of Cubans are not white, but the overwhelming majority of the ruling class is.

And Obama he’s being, well Obama:

“President Castro, I think, has pointed out that in his view making sure that everybody is getting a decent education or health care, has basic security and old age, that those things are human rights as well. I personally would not disagree with him,” Obama said.

“But it doesn’t detract from some of these other concerns. And the goal of the human rights dialogue is not for the United States to dictate to Cuba how they should govern themselves, but to make sure that we are having a frank and candid conversation around this issue. And hopefully that we can learn from each other.”

Obama made the comment at a joint press conference with the Cuban Communist dictator.

All of this brings to mind one person.

Pam Geller:

On July 8th 2010 she released the book the Post american presidency The Obama Administration’s War on America

Geller bluntly said Barack Obama’s priorities are not American priorities, she bluntly warned us that in his upbringing and his priorities America is the villain and our enemies are the heroes.

She was laughed at, called a hate monger and widely insulted. And when radical islamists tried to kill her, the media blamed her and frankly in my opinion were disappointed that they failed.

As I watch the image of Barack Obama in Cuba celebrating one of the worst dictatorships in the history of the Western Hemisphere as they demand the return of Gitmo and attack the United States it would seem Pam Geller was understating the issue. We have not seen an American President so committed to the defeat of the United States since Jefferson Davis

If only we had listened to her in 2012.

I predict if our republic does not fall, 50 years from now after I’m dead and gone, people will look back at Pam Geller and speak about her the same way we now speak about William Lloyd Garrison. But if it happens in my lifetime instead, nobody will be more delighted than I.


Since I wrote those words but Before the Brussels attack Pam Geller put up a post saying this:

The Paris terrorist got most help from his neighbors, not ISIS. This is typical, but largely kept from the public. The media and cultural narrative runs counter to reality. There were marches and demonstrations of support for Muhammad Merah, the French Muslim who staged a series of Islamic attacks including opening fire on a Jewish Day school, as well as mowing down French soldiers. Every time there is a jihad attack, the Muslim community goes on the offense — accusing law enforcement of “entrapment” or blaming “islamophobia.” Never do we see the Muslim community calling for reform or looking inward to address the problem of violence and hatred in Islam.

I suspect many of those same people who aided and abetted the Paris Bomber to evade police will do their part to make sure authorities get no aid in capturing any of those involved in Brussels who might still be at large.

and I regret to say nothing I’ve seen in the last 24 hours made this prediction from Pam Geller from yesterday any less likely:

After these monstrous acts, world leaders proclaim “we are at war” and do nothing. And my colleagues and I continue to be blacklisted and marginalized, despite being right about it all.

If your Doctor or Mechanic was as deep in denial as to the condition of your health or your car you’d sue them for every cent they had.


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Caleb: There’s no virtue in dying, Leela.
Leela: That rather depends on what you do to avoid it

Doctor Who, The Face of Evil 1977

There is one more point I would like to make concerning Linda Stasi’s Piece in the NY Daily News beyond what I said yesterday

There is a sentence in said piece where Stasi was condemning one of the terror victims from San Bernardino that our friends at Gateway Pundit highlighted.

The killer, however, became half of an Islamic Bonnie & Clyde, while the other died as the male equivalent of Pamela Geller.

This line speaks volumes and I submit and suggest that this was not a coincidence or just a bit of hyperbole, this was a dog whistle.

This was a message to potential Islamic killers that the New York Daily News and Linda Stasi believe that their sworn enemy Pamela Geller a US citizen who has spoken out about the dangers of Jihadist terrors are considered beyond the pale by them and that while it is required of them to offer pro-forma condemnation of any attempt to murder her, as far as they are concerned she has it coming.

It is a very public proclamation that while you might have a few disagreements on issues such as gay marriage (or more relevant concerning ISIS gays being tossed off of roofs) the NY Daily News and Linda Stasi are not completely unsympathetic to Muslim grievances and feeling that apparently drive them to murder.

Jake Tapper in a tweet yesterday noted the oddity of the tone that he is seeing concerning San Bernardino

Jake I don’t think it’s strange at all. The whole concept of joining the “kill me last” caucus is about establishing to the potential killers you should not be considered a legitimate target. Of trying to preserve one own’s life, unlike the secondary target of the Daily News Piece Pam Geller who bravely asks the question Stasi, the Daily News and many journalists will not.

American Muslims for the umpteenth time are wailing about a fear of reprisals – reprisals that never actually come in reality, but are always the focus of media obsession after every jihad attack. The blood of American Christians and Jews is still on the floor and the walls of a Christmas party, and they are playing the victim. How savage.

Why aren’t American Muslims mourning our dead? Why aren’t American Muslims using their money and influence to call for an “enlightenment” in Islam, a purge of the Quran and the Islamic texts and teachings that call for jihad and genocide?

The difference is quite striking isn’t it.

I’m fond of life and I’m sure Pam is too, but may I never be so fond of life that I would treat those who would murder either a friend such as Pam Geller or a person I hold in contempt such as Cecile Richards, with sympathy simply to increase the odds of saving my own skin.


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They’re not anti war, they’re just on the other side

Glenn Reynolds

…in this piece from Investors Business Daily

In an unusual legal move, the Obama administration has taken the legal side of the Palestinian Authority and Palestine Liberation Organization in a federal court case that American terrorism victims’ families had already won.”

via Ed Driscoll.  Can we stop pretending that there is anything “unusual”  Barack Obama’s Administration doing things that help people who want to kill Americans, jews & Christians.

Just a reminder Pam Geller and Robert Spencer saw this years ago and wrote about it over five years ago

At the time they were called extremists and hate mongers. Even when terrorists tried to murder them they were blamed for provoking them yet every day that goes by proves them right.

Update:  What a coincidence:

Iranian TV (Al-Alam) interviewed fighters from the Gaza branch of Fatah’s Al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigades, while standing inside an attack tunnel claimed to be 3.5 km long, and opening inside Israel. The purpose of the tunnel is to facilitate larger scale terror attacks from Gaza into Israel.
The announcement that Fatah’s Al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigades, internationally recognized as a terror organization, is asking for money from Iran comes at the same time that the PA has announced that Mahmoud Abbas will be vising Iran. As Palestinian Media Watch reported yesterday, senior PLO official Abbas Zaki, said that strengthening ties with Iran is “an inevitable step if we [the Palestinians] want to confront the Israeli occupation.”
Well it’s a good thing our President is fighting to keep tough sanctions on Iran to keep them from funding these terrorists who want to slaughter Jews… oh wait



Salvio:  [Being threatened with a hot Poker] I am a Blacksmith Senor I have been burned before

Zorro The Iron Box 1959

Late Yesterday the news came that the in the attack in the Boston area on police, the primary target was not the police:

Usaamah Rahim, who was fatally shot after waving a military knife at law enforcement officers in Boston, was originally plotting to behead Pamela Geller, an activist and conservative blogger, law enforcement sources told CNN on Wednesday.

Watch the interview

and be either amazed at the cluelessness of Burnett or be shocked at her suggestion that an ad explicitly opposing Jihad is ground for attempted murder.  It’s as if the MSM were doing their best Dalek Impersonation:

As Pam herself puts it:

Erin Burnett just doesn’t get it.

They targeted me for violating sharia blasphemy laws. They mean to kill everyone who doesn’t do their bidding and abide by them voluntarily. This is a showdown for American freedom. Will we stand against this savagery, or bow down to them and silence ourselves?

If there is one thing that actually surprises me are all these “informed” people seem either shocked that Pam is a target or act as if this is only a recent thing.  For almost the entire time I’ve known her Pam has been a target traveling with bodyguards.

Perhaps Erin and the crew at CNN might be a tad better informed if they had read this interview with her I did in Aug of 2013

4. You seem to shrug off death threats the way people comb hair out of their eyes, where does this strength come from?

I am fighting for freedom. Life is not worth living without freedom. If we don’t fight now, when? When the death threat becomes …… law?

5. A rather somber question, if tomorrow your foes managed to silence you, other than the obvious answer (Robert Spencer’s Jihad Watch) where would recommend your readers go to stay informed about Radical Islam.

The Religion of

I think that what really upsets people is Pam’s courage is a constant reminder of a lot of other people’s cowardice.  Every day she stands up like a lion she reminds everyone else that they are mice.  That’s why in my opinion if the Islamists manage to murder her may so called supporters of free speech will publicly deplore it and privately celebrate.

It’s a national disgrace.

Two thoughts in closing:

If Radical Islam ever conquers the few people who resist in secret will have pictures of Pam on their wall & copies of her writing hidden on flash drives to inspire them to fight on.

But when Radical Islam falls, and it eventually will, there will be a lot of people who collaborated with it who, with the threat of the blade gone, will suddenly go from sounding like mice to sounding like lions.

They had better hope that day comes after Pam is gone because if she is still alive she’ll not let them get away with it.

Update:  Via Zilla Pam is interviewed by Fox they do it right as did Jake Tapper who has been an example of real journalism for a while & is getting hit for it.


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What else can one conclude after reading this story:

The Washington, D.C., transit system banned all “issue-oriented” advertisements from Metro stations and buses on Thursday, after receiving a request to run ads showing the Prophet Muhammad.

The Metro board agreed to a motion from Chairman Mort Downey to ban political, religious and other issue ads through the rest of the year, a spokesman confirmed.

Now I’ve seen ads on the metro hitting Israel and this ad is currently running on the metro

But for all the international critique of Israel as violent oppressors and for all the pols who have insisted buffer zones are needed to protect innocent abortion providers from ladies with rosaries praying near them,  neither the anti Israel ads, nor the pro abortion ads nor any other were rejected on the grounds that they posed a safety hazard to the public.

Yet this cartoondraw-mohammad

is considered enough to cause the DC metro to suspend the 1st Amendment for all

he says current board members are “obviously in a bind because we know what happens when you criticize Muhammad, we know how some people react to that. I don’t think we ever had a situation [in the past] where someone threatened to blow up a bus.”

Graham says he’s not aware of any credible threat in response to the ad, but that, “We know worldwide what has happened to others who have gone down this path.”

What does that tell us?  Since no other ad has caused this kind of reaction we must conclude that in the Metro’s opinion  Muslims are so violent, so savage, so barbaric that the risk of a murderous response by members of the Religion of Peace™  exceeds the risk of offending any other group in the Metro’s history.

Three years ago I commented on the silence of the west on the exile of Molly Norris:

 their unwillingness to question call on the west’s Muslims to speak against the violence coupled with their previous actions concerning the Mohammad Cartoons and their silence on Molly Norris suggests they believe the west’s Muslim’s are barbarians pretending to be civilized men and are afraid of angering them for fear of their own lives.

That makes the MSM by their own standards, both racists and cowards.

We must conclude from this decision that if western Muslim are in fact barbarians giving the pretence of being civilized men, said pretence is not very effective.

If I was a Muslim I’d be insulted by the implication that my religion is full of barbarians, unless of course I prefer  the power of  people deferring to me out of abject fear.


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