Mrs Cooper:You know how your daddy used to say that you can only fish for so long before you got to throw a stick of dynamite in the water?

Sheldon: Yeah.

Mrs Cooper:Well, I’m done fishing

The Big Bang Theory The Luminous Fish Effect 2007

I’m done.

I’m done asking people to vote for the GOP, I’m done compromising on issues dear to me and I’m done pushing candidates that are willing to say one thing when they want my vote but not willing to act once they have power.

The party seems to forget the reason they have a congressional majority is not due to their own actions but the actions of others.

 In 1994 it was Rush Limbaugh and the conservatives he energized with the help of Hillarycare that motivated voters who previously did not turn out to finally give the GOP their first congressional majority since the 50’s.

It 2010 it was the TeaParty and people who had not gotten involved before energized by the president Obama push for Obamacare and led by Sarah Palin, the one person besides Limbaugh who was not calling for appeasement of Obama that gave the GOP majorities all over the nation just in time for the redrawing of congressional maps.

And it was conservatives again who after being spurned by Mitt Romney & Co and staying home in 2012 gave the party one more shot to do what they promised in 2014.

This abortion bill debacle was the last straw for me.  I left the Democrats 20 years ago when it became clear that a Catholic who actually believed in his faith was no longer welcome, if the GOP doesn’t want social conservatives then it’s time for us to go.

That leads to the obvious question:  Go Where?

Glad you asked, After the last presidential election Mike Rogers sent this comment in E-mail that I posted:.

The time to take over the GOP (state by state) or set up a real third party (let’s call it the conservative party, like NY state), is NOW, after a historic election that demonstrated the ineptness of the “Wizards of Smart”.

The time NOT to talk about and vote for a third part candidate, or stay home and pout about rules that work against you is DURING an historic election, when one of the evils is immeasurably worse than the guy you can’t quite warm to.

If we successfully set up a conservative party, and win some seats, we can choose to align with Republicans or even endorse their candidate as a tactical matter on a vote by vote basis.

Well it is after a historic election and after reading about Mitt Romney embracing climate change, the English & spanish language versions of the SOTU response and the House GOP going feckless on Abortion the time to set up these conservative parties in every state is now.

This VERY week  Committees should begin forming in every state to create State conservative parties.

THIS VERY WEEK:  True believers should be determining exactly legal steps need to be done in each state to be recognized.

This very week, activists should be sounding out potential candidates and writing a statement of principles embracing the following:

1.  Fiscal conservativism & responsibility

2.  Social conservative & personal responsibility

3.  Defending the Judeo Christian values that made America great

As for funding this, if we can’t find conservatives willing to kick in I”m sure our friends on the left would be delighted to provide the seed money to get things going in the hope of splitting the GOP.

This has to be started NOW so that by say April of this year we are in a position to be able to act.

Now I can hear people say:  “DaTechGuy, this is crazy, you’ll just be handing elections to the Democrats who are even worse.  Haven’t you said time and time again you have to vote for the best choice on the ballot?”

Yes I have and on a pragmatic level if the choice in 2016 is Bush vs Clinton I’d much rather have Bush nominate a squish to the Supreme Court than Clinton nominate a radical but this misses the point.

If we have things in place by this summer, well before the primary season for 2016 everything changes for one simple reason that Mike pointed out in his original e-mail.  A point I want to emphasize:

There is absolutely nothing stopping a Massachusetts Conservative Party or a Ohio Conservative Party or a North Carolina Conservative Party from nominating the candidate that wins a GOP primary as their choice for a state district,  a House district, a Senate Seat, a Governorship.  Nor is there anything preventing a national conservative party from nominating the GOP presidential nominee as the choice of their party.

Now put yourself in the place of the GOP both on the national and the state level.

If they see such parties forming, particularly in states that are close, are they more or less likely to frustrate the conservative agenda in the House & Senate and fuel the anger that generates them?

Say you are a member of Congress, perchance one who scuttled the Abortion bill, or is pushing for higher Gas taxes or supporting common core and you see this happening, are you more or less likely to anger conservatives who might choose to run a candidate who will cut into your base?

Say you are a state party preparing to fill a open congressional seat, are you likely to push a RINO that will guarantee a Conservative Party candidate on the ballot or will they find a more conservative candidate that, while not being a Ted Cruz or a Mike Lee would have enough appeal to conservatives to keep them in their camp?

Imagine you’re a state GOP with a strong conservative already sitting, are you to consider a primary challenge to might cause the state conservative party to split off?

Now obviously both human nature and the law of averages tell you that this will not always be enough to motivate the GOP to “Do the right thing” and there will be occasions when our running a candidate will be enough to give a Democrat the odd house seat in a marginal district or even cost us a Senate Seat such as in NH but consider the following:

Right now the GOP has the largest majority it has had in the house for a century.  So if Democrats take a few seats or even 10, it will not give them the strength to advance the liberal agenda.

Additionally what if there had been a 3rd party candidate running in NH instead of clear field.  Might some of those conservatives who stayed home have been enough to not only increase the GOP majority in the statehouse or perhaps give some help to Marilinda Garcia who was ignored by the national GOP?

Would not both the state party and perhaps a candidate such as Kelly Ayotte who had the support of Conservatives like Palin in 2010 seeing thousands of votes for a Conservative candidate in opposition to Brown think long and hard before antagonizing said party before she has to face voters?

Now there are some who might see  new party structure as a chance to become regular guest on media, others who figure getting in on the ground floor of a party will mean power in the long run, still others see this in terms of profit and an easy paycheck.  A new party will always attract such people.

In the long run it doesn’t matter to me any more than if a congressman votes the right way out of principle or out of expediency.  I’d say if the world was full of angels we would not be need government but as I recall Satan started his career angelically.

So lets just say this:   if we are advancing conservative principles for the good of our country our society and children, that’s fine with me.

But remember we have only a short window to get this done, if we wait too long then we won’t be able to influence the GOP congress into conservatism, or the GOP candidates into conservatism, all we’ll be able to do is help Democrats win, which is’t the point of the exercise.

We get started now or we wait till Jan 2017.  There is not an acceptable 3rd choice.

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Does anyone else remember back in the days of NH where despite his unchallenged talents as a father we concluded that Jon Huntsman’s by his appearances on Colbert or on this Week:

Let’s make it clear, Jon Huntsman is not running for the Republican nomination for president. He is running for a permanent place as the “goto former GOP presidential candidate” on every MSM show during the general election and beyond.

You will never go broke or lack face time on national television as a member of the GOP willing to hit republicans in general and the right in particular. Glenn Reynolds put it best:

Or Stacy McCain’s comments on him:

Huntsman was always every liberal’s favorite GOP candidate — the folks on MSNBC loved him — and that was demonstrated conclusively last week:

According to exit polls, Huntsman only won a handful of demographics in New Hampshire: Democrats, those who oppose the Tea Party, and voters who are generally satisfied with the Obama administration.

Well much to the surprise of nobody expect perhaps Doug Mataconis comes this news:

According to very credible sources, Huntsman has accepted a speaking slot at the Democrat convention in Charlotte next month.

and apparently he isn’t going alone

If the information is accurate, it does provide a telling context for Jon Huntsman Sr.’s out-of-the-blue attack today on Mitt Romney’s taxes and rumors that he is the “source” for Harry Reid’s wild allegation over those taxes. And let’s not forget that one of Huntsman’s daughters recently announced that she would switch to the Democrat party.

I presume if true he will be un-endorsing Romney and Endorsing Obama.

It’s an amazing sequence:

1. Create a faux republican as a candidate to try to pull Romney left

2. Create a faux image of said candidate as credible push him as a real contender in a state where democrats can vote in the GOP primary

3. Create a faux scandal concerning Mitt Romney’s taxes, taxes that the IRS has seen, taxes that nobody is calming.

4. Have said faux candidate condemn Romney over said scandal

5. Use said scandal to get speaking spot at the convention that no democrat in a tough race wants to appear at.

And if the con isn’t enough to pull down Romney then he can still be the goto “Republican” to critique the new president for the next four years.

All that’s let is for him to reveal dark secrets of Mormonism and the transformation will be complete.

Last thought, if John Huntsman is the best card the Obama campaign has, they’re worse off then I thought.

Update: Two Huntsman daughters are denying the speaking business, it would be nicer if it was the man himself, but I’ll take the ladies at their word. Are they also denying the report that he’s calling for Mitt to release more tax returns too, saying Romney:

“won’t be fair with the American people,”

Just asking.

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this is it:

Just a couple of quick comments and that’s really all I’ll make. First of all, just to affirm, the activities of today are perfectly legitimate part of the process. Even the smallest minority – and that’s what we’ve heard from the last couple days – has every right to express the strength of its views and I salute those who do.

Nothing like a republicans who covers for fleeing democrats against his own party, it always makes the heart of the no labels heart beat faster.

Little Miss Attila? Not so much.

Robert Stacy McCain reports that Dede Scozzafava has not been forgotten by democrats grateful for one of their few pleasant surprises of election evening

What Dede Scozzafava did can never be forgiven, nor should it ever be forgotten.

You might recall that once it was clear she could not win in NY-23 she endorsed the Democrat Bill Owens who managed re-election with three names on the ballot for the 2nd time.

I still say the NRCC owes us 900k. A lot to think about for the next chairman who should keep it in mind.

Yesterday I was exchanging tweets with Melissa Clouthier and this rather surprising story was being discussed:

CNN is teaming up with the Tea Party Express for a first-of-its-kind presidential primary debate, both organizations announced Friday. The Tea Party debate, featuring 2012 Republican presidential candidates, is scheduled for Labor Day week 2011. It will take place in Tampa, Florida – the site of the 2012 Republican National Convention.

As a person who ever so briefly rode the tea party express I was tickled pink. Although Melissa knows some of the folks as well she had this to say:

I wasn’t happy with what happened in Nevada, though. Shoulda left that race well enough alone.

Quite a few conservatives say the same about Christine O’Donnell but (via Glenn) Kevin Williamson makes an excellent point:

Say what you like about Christine O’Donnell and her incompetent nut-cluster of a campaign, she showed the Republican establishment that the Tea Party, and the fiscally discontent at large, are willing to run a kamikaze candidate against any RINO target of opportunity. And not all of the challengers are going to be O’Donnell-type buffoons. Sharron Angle was a much more serious candidate and ran a much more serious campaign. Pat Toomey chased Arlen Specter out of the Republican party and then put the smackdown on his Democratic opponent — a retired admiral, let’s remember, not some wild-eyed hippie — in the general. Pat Toomey scares the old guard. They do not want to see a dozen Pat Toomeys showing up in Republican primaries next time around. Kay Bailey Hutchison does not want some Stetson-wearing Toomey showing up in her backyard.

This is the real reason why the GOP is holding the line on spending. Those primaries that ousted the GOP rinos (you know the No labels crowd) can easily be repeated and establishment candidates who know Tea Party supporters can muster both cash and votes in primaries have no desire to find themselves as an occasional commentator on a CNN panel rather than in the halls of power.

It would be nice if they did the right thing because it is right but if they do it out of fear that’s fine too.