I speak to Robert Spencer about his book Confessions of an Islamophobe.
It would make an excellent last minute Christmas Present
I speak to Robert Spencer about his book Confessions of an Islamophobe.
It would make an excellent last minute Christmas Present
One of the things I’ve written about in the past is the willingness of the left to ignore Islam’s positions on Homosexuality and Gay Marriage, apparently a big part of it, at least in Australia is tactical:
Last night on ABC’s The Drum, Ali Kadri, spokesman for the Islamic Council of Queensland and the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils, said his community was stuck with the choice of offending allies or siding with critics, and the result had been silence.
“Unfortunately, in the current climate, the right and conservative side has attacked Muslims as terrorists and extremists, and naturally the left side has been allies in defending us for a long period of time,” he said.
“We are afraid if we come out with our opinion then the left may abandon us for going against their view and we can’t be friendly with the conservatives because they have been bashing us for 15, 20 years every chance they get … and that includes some Christian sects as well.”
Or to rephrase, we don’t want to do anything to make the useful idiots any less useful.
Pam Geller phrases it bluntly
They understand the war better than the kufar. The left has been doing their dirty work for well over a decade now. Why agitate the agitators and knaves doing the heavy lifting in the spread of Islam and sharia? When the time comes, the left will be dealt with in much the same manner as the rest of the unbelievers.
They don’t only understand the war, they understand that the Common Thread of the Left is hatred of Christianity and any kind of alliance with devout Christians in Australia or anywhere else will outrage the left more than any amount of sermons against Homosexuality or gays thrown off roofs. I think Robert Spencer has this nailed:
Muslims who are concerned about their opposition to homosexuality causing them to risk losing the support from “the left side” may have nothing to worry about, if the Pride Parade in Vancouver is any indication of where the loyalties of the “left side” lie. The absurdity of a gay Muslim being rejected for opposing the human rights abuses justified by Sharia is astonishing. Opposing gays will likely be tolerated by “the left side.” As a result of the aggressive “Islamophobia” campaign, the only religion that cannot and must not be challenged, no matter what, is Islam, even when that challenge is coming from progressive Muslims. Last year, Facebook banned a gay magazine critical of Islam.
His piece on the pride parade in Vancouver WA speaks volumes.
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British Police have named Saman Abedi as the Terrorist suicide bomber caused the mass murder of Children in England after an Ariana Grande concert in Manchester and it’s reported that another person has been detained in connection to the attack.
As I watch the usual suspects are sounding the same, the phrases “Lone Wolf”, Islamophobia , love vs hate, and doing all it can to take the Islam out of the latest example of Islamic Terror.
Of course England has done its part to purge the Islam from Islamic Terror, by banning Pam Geller who today noted about the attacker in Manchester:
Just like the neighbors of San Bernadino jihad mass murderers, neighbors noticed strange goings-on at the house of the jihadis, but didn’t alert authorities for fear of being labeled racist-islamophobic-anti-Muslim-bigots.
and Robert Spencer who wrote this on Manchester:
UK: Manchester jihad mass murderer known to authorities but “not thought to pose immediate threat”
They thought wrong. Why? Because they don’t have the first foggiest clue about what motivates these people, and what their goals are. So how can they possibly evaluate who is an “immediate threat” and who isn’t? They have to discount so much evidence that someone may be an “immediate threat” because to acknowledge the importance of that evidence would be “Islamophobic,” they’re left with nothing to go on.
While their exclusion from England, Ironically promulgated by the current prime minister Theresa May when she was home secretary, along with others like Michael Savage has drawn the approval of many media and cultural elites has been effective in preventing people from hearing their warning concerning Islamic Terror has been less than effective at preventing people from being killed by it.
Mark Steyn notes the contrast in tactics and results in England vs elsewhere
Poland and Hungary and Slovakia do not have Islamic terrorism because they have very little Islam. France and Germany and Belgium admit more and more Islam, and thus more and more terrorism. Yet the subject of immigration has been all but entirely absent from the current UK election campaign. Thirty years ago, in the interests of stopping IRA terrorism, the British state was not above preventing the internal movement within its borders of unconvicted, uncharged, unarrested Republican sympathizers seeking to take a ferry from Belfast to Liverpool. Today it declares it can do nothing to prevent the movement of large numbers of the Muslim world from thousands of miles away to the heart of the United Kingdom. It’s just a fact of life – like being blown up when you go to a pop concert.
But while Britian’s current tactics might not be generating fear in the hearts of potential terrorists as evidenced by this announcement:
British police arrested someone in connection with last night’s attack. Now they have intelligence that a second attack may be impending, pushing the terror threat level to “critical” for the first time in 10 years. How big is this cell?
The practical effect of raising the threat level is that the British military will be deployed to support the police in guarding “key sites” around the country. That’s not going to make libertarians happy, but luckily for Theresa May there aren’t many of those left in the UK.
it has successfully put the fear of being considered “Islamophobic” in the minds and hearts of the potential victims of said terror.
Alas what I wrote in 2011 continues to remain true:
Pam and those who warn of Radical Islam are Fiver calling for help for those caught in a snare. Her detractors are Cowslip the head of the snared warren. To oppose radical Islam requires a courage they don’t have and to openly admit appeasement acknowledges a cowardice they can’t bear. Much easier to not talk about it and preserve their illusion of dignity.
Pam and those like her bring up uncomfortable truths and for that they will be forever hated.
Or to put it another way. The end of Islamic Terror will be in sight when we love our children more than we fear being called “Islamophobic”.
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I have met Robert Spencer briefly over the years in a variety of places across the U.S., and frequently read his blog, Jihad Watch, which I invite you to read.
Robert was poisoned during a trip to Iceland, after giving an anti-jihad lecture in Reykjavik.
Robert’s lecture was preceded by media reports which he describes as “a firestorm of abuse in the Icelandic press,” some downright libelous,
Perhaps most absurd of all, Icelandic media published the false claim that I incited the Norwegian mass murderer Anders Breivik to kill. (Sigh. In a world of logical thinking, I’m as responsible for Breivik as the Beatles are for Charles Manson.) After the event, one article even featured a large photo of Breivik, yet it quoted nary a thing I said that evening.
Not one Icelandic media outlet contacted me for comment, much less for rebuttal to the charges they made against me.
In spite of the media demonizing, 500 people attended the lecture, following which Robert went out for dinner. It was then that someone slipped Ritalin mixed with MDMA (Ecstasy) in his drink. He was hospitalized for days.
Robert continues (emphasis added),
I learned my lesson. And the lesson I learned was that media demonization of those who dissent from the Leftist line is direct incitement to violence. By portraying me and others who raise legitimate questions about jihad terror and Sharia oppression as racist, bigoted “Islamophobes” without allowing us a fair hearing, they paint a huge target on the backs of those who dare to dissent.
Those who paint the targets, and those who shoot at them, think they’re doing something great. Not only does the Left fill those whom it brainwashes with hate, but it does so while portraying its enemies as the hatemongers, such that violent Leftists such as the young man who drugged me feel righteous as they victimize and brutalize for the crime of disagreement.
Mark Steyn, with whom I have also coincided at various venues, says “I don’t know how I’d stand up to a cocktail of Ritalin and Ecstasy.” I doubt that I’d fare as well as Robert.
Steyn notes the effect of poisonous social engineering (emphasis added),
The social-justice crowd are moving toward the same point as the Charlie Hebdo killers, and for the same reason: They’re too stupid to argue. For the Islamic imperialists, debate is a largely alien concept. For the left, it’s simply too much effort. As I said here many years ago, the great appeal of multiculturalism is that it absolves you from having to know anything about other cultures: If they’re all equally valid, what’s the point? Slap on the CO-EXIST bumper sticker and off you tootle. No need to worry whether the “C” might have a bit of a problem with some of the other letters, and that indeed, if not for the “C”, you wouldn’t need a bumper-sticker admonition to CO-EXIST in the first place. But, after two generations of social engineering, of the substitution of attitudes for education, it would require too much effort to equip yourself to argue against the difficult questions a man such as Robert Spencer raises. It’s literally easier to kill him.
For years I have noted that the Left carries out relentless character assassination against those whom it hates, with the intention of discrediting us utterly, without debate or examination of our ideas. Now I see that the endpoint of this operation is not just that we be silenced, but that we be dead. Character assassination was first, and as my being poisoned in Iceland shows, now the Left is beginning to move on to the next level: actual assassination.
It’s not “only” a culture war. It never has been.
Fausta Rodríguez Wertz writes in U. S. and Latin America at Fausta’s blog.
They’re not anti war, they’re just on the other side
…in this piece from Investors Business Daily
In an unusual legal move, the Obama administration has taken the legal side of the Palestinian Authority and Palestine Liberation Organization in a federal court case that American terrorism victims’ families had already won.”
via Ed Driscoll. Can we stop pretending that there is anything “unusual” Barack Obama’s Administration doing things that help people who want to kill Americans, jews & Christians.
Just a reminder Pam Geller and Robert Spencer saw this years ago and wrote about it over five years ago
At the time they were called extremists and hate mongers. Even when terrorists tried to murder them they were blamed for provoking them yet every day that goes by proves them right.
Update: What a coincidence:
Iranian TV (Al-Alam) interviewed fighters from the Gaza branch of Fatah’s Al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigades, while standing inside an attack tunnel claimed to be 3.5 km long, and opening inside Israel. The purpose of the tunnel is to facilitate larger scale terror attacks from Gaza into Israel.
The announcement that Fatah’s Al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigades, internationally recognized as a terror organization, is asking for money from Iran comes at the same time that the PA has announced that Mahmoud Abbas will be vising Iran. As Palestinian Media Watch reported yesterday, senior PLO official Abbas Zaki, said that strengthening ties with Iran is “an inevitable step if we [the Palestinians] want to confront the Israeli occupation.”
My Friend Pam Geller has often talked about the threat of radical Islamists to the west but it’s worth noting that for ISIS if a Christian or a Jew or an Atheist isn’t handy to kill any person who doesn’t worship God the right way, their way, will do, even other Muslims:
Pakistan’s Ismaili Shiite community is reeling from an attack Wednesday by gunmen that left at least 46 members of the religious minority dead in Karachi. The violence is the first of its kind directed at the community amid escalating militant threats against the predominantly Sunni Muslim country’s religious minorities, and was condemned by leaders including the Ismaili spiritual head, the Aga Khan.
The Aga Khan expressed his shock and sadness about the attack on Wednesday, condemning it as a “senseless act of violence against a peaceful community.” The attack was claimed by a splinter group of the Pakistani Taliban known as Jundallah, which pledged allegiance to the Islamic State late last year.
Now in fairness to these ISIS sympathizers they don’t consider them Muslims then they would consider me one and in their eyes are equally deserving of murder as I am.
“These killed people were Ismaili, and we consider them kafir (non-Muslim),” Jundallah spokesman Ahmed Marwat told Reuters. Gunmen on motorcycles reportedly boarded a commuter bus carrying around 60 Ismailis and, according to witness accounts, fired indiscriminately into the crowd.
I got this info via a local Imam who sends this press release from the Ahmadiyya Muslim community of America
The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community USA condemns in the strongest terms the May 13, 2015 terrorist attack on the Ismaili Muslim community in Karachi, Pakistan. Early reports indicate at least 43 dead and 24 injured when six gunmen opened fire on busses carrying Ismaeli Muslims.
“We are deeply saddened by this horrible loss of innocent life and offer our most heartfelt condolences to the victims’ families,” said Wasim Malik, National Vice President of Ahmadiyya Muslim Community USA. “We pray for the safety of all in Pakistan during these troubling times.”
The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community USA prays for the departed.
These are good words and well spoken by the Ahmadiyya Muslim community that’s I’ve written about in the past. While in the US they are often in the forefront because they epitomize peaceful Islam, in many Islamic countries outside the US they are not recognized as muslims, have been heavily persecuted & are not allowed under Saudi law in mecca. As people who have been persecuted they understand the pain of it.
But there is an important lesson here. As far as ISIS & radical Islamists are concerned, the Ismali, the Ahmadiyya and any other Muslim that doesn’t toe their line is the same as my Jewish friend Pam Geller or my Catholic Brother Robert Spencer, enemies worthy only of the blade or the gun.
I submit and suggest that we need to stop ISIS and all those radicals who cloak themselves in Islam. Those who ISIS would send to their 21st century equivalent of the gas chamber will not find their own murders and the murders of their families any more acceptable if the murders of Pam & Robert precede them.
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In addition to his base speech Robert Spencer answered assorted questions after his speech at the YAF conference in Nashua NH.
On the Bible vs the Koran
On Intervention vs Isis
On Obama & ISIS
The Radicalization of Muslims
Fighting the “Hate” Label
The Lure of Islam
Iraq and Isis
Staying out of War
and Tackling ISIS
and Oil Fueled Terror
Spencer answered more questions than any other speaker I saw at the two day event. But thats Robert all over.
My interview with Robert Spencer at YAF Nashua NH
His mention of Molly Norris being on the ISIS hit list should be national news, I’m ashamed to say I didn’t see it.
I’ll be posting the rest of my video from the conference over the next several days
The latest in our series of posts that will not surprise any person who has been paying attention.
An Indian-origin Islamist activist facing trial on terrorism charges skipped bail and fled the country with his family on Wednesday, headed through Paris to the Islamic State, British media have reported. The escape, first revealed by The Daily Mail, came after Abu Rumaysah failed to surrender his passport, a condition of his bail, and has led to opposition charges of police incompetence.
Seriously, they didn’t get the passport first before they let him out on bail? Well it must be because he wasn’t charged with anything series lie inciting terrorist, oh wait….
Born Siddhartha Dhar, to a family Indian diplomatic sources in London told The Indian Express was of Bihar-Bengal origin, Abu Rumaysah had been arrested in September along with nine others, on charges of inciting terrorism, as part of an ongoing investigation of the London-based pro-jihadist group al-Muhajiroun.
Well nobody finds this more unexpected that Robert Spencer who writes…
He was forbidden to leave the country; Britain wants to keep its jihadis. But he eluded authorities, which is no doubt very easy to do in Clueless Britannia, and fled to the Islamic State. But not to worry, Abu Rumaysah, if you have “good intentions,” you can come back whenever you wish and be showered with goods by the Ministry of Appeasement.
The real question what is the source of this story’s place in the “Unexpectedly Chronicles”, that a supporter of Jihad in the west flouts law or that a bureaucracy is this inefficient?
FYI have you seen Robert Spencer’s latest book?
Or perhaps some of his other ones?
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Pam Geller’s latest batch of bus ads in response to more “divestment” ads against Israel is generating an awful lot of anger:
I would like my D6 bus without a side of Hitler, please.
The picture of Hitler plastered on the side of D.C. buses arrived this week and, as expected, the outrage over them continues to pour in.
The Times of Israel
Jonathan Carey, founder and executive director of BlueStar, a San Francisco-based Israel advocacy and public relations organization, believes Geller’s ads will only end up offending and alienating people.
“I don’t think anyone following the news would be surprised about radical Islam, but this is not something for a poster in the public realm,” he told The Times of Israel.
The Raw Story
An organization run by an anti-Mulsim blogger has purchased billboards on the sides of twenty Washington DC Metro buses featuring Adolph Hitler and calling for an end to ‘all aid to Islamic countries.’
An anti-Islamic organization that plans to use Adolf Hitler as the face of an anti-Islamic ad campaign on Washington DC metro buses has stirred up controversy.
and the Huffington Post
The Council on American-Islamic relations has spoken out against Geller’s pictures, calling it a propaganda campaign “designed to incite hatred against American Muslims”.
In defence of the Washington Post they at least had a 2nd article with a fair summary of why the ads went up.
It began when the American Muslims for Palestine (AMP) launched bus ads during the April Cherry Blossom Festival condemning U.S. aid to Israel because of that country’s continuing occupation of Palestinian territories.
Then on Monday (May 19), Pamela Geller’s American Freedom Defense Initiative countered by deploying 15-foot-long ads on 20 buses in the Washington, D.C., system that equate opposition to Israel’s policies with Nazism. One ad shows the grand mufti of Jerusalem meeting Hitler during World War II.
The controversial advertisement, which will be displayed in about 20 metro buses, shows Hitler meeting with anti-Jewish Islamic leader Haj Amin al-Husseini during World War II.
Read those articles, you’ll see they say a lot about Pam’s ads, how they’re “inflammatory”, unhelpful, some call them racist (is Islam a race?) but there is one term that they haven’t used to describe these ads.
It is interesting how the media never look into what is said in the ad – that Islamic Jew-hatred is in the Quran or that two-thirds of all U.S. aid goes to Islamic countries. No. They just obsess over my unmitigated gall to repeat it. It’s my saying it that’s the problem. The truth is the problem.
And don’t forget these ads were reactive. They were placed to answer ads run against Israel. If those ads had not run, these ads would not either.
The left will never forgive Pam for saying this truth aloud, particularly in a way that gets people asking questions, because CAIR’s facade can’t stand up to the truth.
What would we do without her and Robert Spencer?