In an unusual legal move, the Obama administration has taken the legal side of the Palestinian Authority and Palestine Liberation Organization in a federal court case that American terrorism victims’ families had already won.”
via Ed Driscoll. Can we stop pretending that there is anything “unusual” Barack Obama’s Administration doing things that help people who want to kill Americans, jews & Christians.
Just a reminder Pam Geller and Robert Spencer saw this years ago and wrote about it over five years ago
At the time they were called extremists and hate mongers. Even when terrorists tried to murder them they were blamed for provoking them yet every day that goes by proves them right.
Iranian TV (Al-Alam) interviewed fighters from the Gaza branch of Fatah’s Al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigades, while standing inside an attack tunnel claimed to be 3.5 km long, and opening inside Israel. The purpose of the tunnel is to facilitate larger scale terror attacks from Gaza into Israel.
The announcement that Fatah’s Al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigades, internationally recognized as a terror organization, is asking for money from Iran comes at the same time that the PA has announced that Mahmoud Abbas will be vising Iran. As Palestinian Media Watch reported yesterday, senior PLO official Abbas Zaki, said that strengthening ties with Iran is “an inevitable step if we [the Palestinians] want to confront the Israeli occupation.”
Well it’s a good thing our President is fighting to keep tough sanctions on Iran to keep them from funding these terrorists who want to slaughter Jews… oh wait
My Friend Pam Geller has often talked about the threat of radical Islamists to the west but it’s worth noting that for ISIS if a Christian or a Jew or an Atheist isn’t handy to kill any person who doesn’t worship God the right way, their way, will do, even other Muslims:
Pakistan’s Ismaili Shiite community is reeling from an attack Wednesday by gunmen that left at least 46 members of the religious minority dead in Karachi. The violence is the first of its kind directed at the community amid escalating militant threats against the predominantly Sunni Muslim country’s religious minorities, and was condemned by leaders including the Ismaili spiritual head, the Aga Khan.
The Aga Khan expressed his shock and sadness about the attack on Wednesday, condemning it as a “senseless act of violence against a peaceful community.” The attack was claimed by a splinter group of the Pakistani Taliban known as Jundallah, which pledged allegiance to the Islamic State late last year.
Now in fairness to these ISIS sympathizers they don’t consider them Muslims then they would consider me one and in their eyes are equally deserving of murder as I am.
“These killed people were Ismaili, and we consider them kafir (non-Muslim),” Jundallah spokesman Ahmed Marwat told Reuters. Gunmen on motorcycles reportedly boarded a commuter bus carrying around 60 Ismailis and, according to witness accounts, fired indiscriminately into the crowd.
I got this info via a local Imam who sends this press release from the Ahmadiyya Muslim community of America
The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community USA condemns in the strongest terms the May 13, 2015 terrorist attack on the Ismaili Muslim community in Karachi, Pakistan. Early reports indicate at least 43 dead and 24 injured when six gunmen opened fire on busses carrying Ismaeli Muslims.
“We are deeply saddened by this horrible loss of innocent life and offer our most heartfelt condolences to the victims’ families,” said Wasim Malik, National Vice President of Ahmadiyya Muslim Community USA. “We pray for the safety of all in Pakistan during these troubling times.”
The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community USA prays for the departed.
These are good words and well spoken by the Ahmadiyya Muslim community that’s I’ve writtenabout in thepast. While in the US they are often in the forefront because they epitomize peaceful Islam, in many Islamic countries outside the US they are not recognized as muslims, have been heavily persecuted & are not allowed under Saudi law in mecca. As people who have been persecuted they understand the pain of it.
But there is an important lesson here. As far as ISIS & radical Islamists are concerned, the Ismali, the Ahmadiyya and any other Muslim that doesn’t toe their line is the same as my Jewish friend Pam Geller or my Catholic Brother Robert Spencer, enemies worthy only of the blade or the gun.
I submit and suggest that we need to stop ISIS and all those radicals who cloak themselves in Islam. Those who ISIS would send to their 21st century equivalent of the gas chamber will not find their own murders and the murders of their families any more acceptable if the murders of Pam & Robert precede them.
An Indian-origin Islamist activist facing trial on terrorism charges skipped bail and fled the country with his family on Wednesday, headed through Paris to the Islamic State, British media have reported. The escape, first revealed by The Daily Mail, came after Abu Rumaysah failed to surrender his passport, a condition of his bail, and has led to opposition charges of police incompetence.
Seriously, they didn’t get the passport first before they let him out on bail? Well it must be because he wasn’t charged with anything series lie inciting terrorist, oh wait….
Born Siddhartha Dhar, to a family Indian diplomatic sources in London told The Indian Express was of Bihar-Bengal origin, Abu Rumaysah had been arrested in September along with nine others, on charges of inciting terrorism, as part of an ongoing investigation of the London-based pro-jihadist group al-Muhajiroun.
Well nobody finds this more unexpected that Robert Spencer who writes…
He was forbidden to leave the country; Britain wants to keep its jihadis. But he eluded authorities, which is no doubt very easy to do in Clueless Britannia, and fled to the Islamic State. But not to worry, Abu Rumaysah, if you have “good intentions,” you can come back whenever you wish and be showered with goods by the Ministry of Appeasement.
The real question what is the source of this story’s place in the “Unexpectedly Chronicles”, that a supporter of Jihad in the west flouts law or that a bureaucracy is this inefficient?
FYI have you seen Robert Spencer’s latest book?
Or perhaps some of his other ones?
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Jonathan Carey, founder and executive director of BlueStar, a San Francisco-based Israel advocacy and public relations organization, believes Geller’s ads will only end up offending and alienating people.
“I don’t think anyone following the news would be surprised about radical Islam, but this is not something for a poster in the public realm,” he told The Times of Israel.
An organization run by an anti-Mulsim blogger has purchased billboards on the sides of twenty Washington DC Metro buses featuring Adolph Hitler and calling for an end to ‘all aid to Islamic countries.’
The Council on American-Islamic relations has spoken out against Geller’s pictures, calling it a propaganda campaign “designed to incite hatred against American Muslims”.
In defence of the Washington Post they at least had a 2nd article with a fair summary of why the ads went up.
It began when the American Muslims for Palestine (AMP) launched bus ads during the April Cherry Blossom Festival condemning U.S. aid to Israel because of that country’s continuing occupation of Palestinian territories.
Then on Monday (May 19), Pamela Geller’s American Freedom Defense Initiative countered by deploying 15-foot-long ads on 20 buses in the Washington, D.C., system that equate opposition to Israel’s policies with Nazism. One ad shows the grand mufti of Jerusalem meeting Hitler during World War II.
The controversial advertisement, which will be displayed in about 20 metro buses, shows Hitler meeting with anti-Jewish Islamic leader Haj Amin al-Husseini during World War II.
Read those articles, you’ll see they say a lot about Pam’s ads, how they’re “inflammatory”, unhelpful, some call them racist (is Islam a race?) but there is one term that they haven’t used to describe these ads.
It is interesting how the media never look into what is said in the ad – that Islamic Jew-hatred is in the Quran or that two-thirds of all U.S. aid goes to Islamic countries. No. They just obsess over my unmitigated gall to repeat it. It’s my saying it that’s the problem. The truth is the problem.
And don’t forget these ads were reactive. They were placed to answer ads run against Israel. If those ads had not run, these ads would not either.
The left will never forgive Pam for saying this truth aloud, particularly in a way that gets people asking questions, because CAIR’s facade can’t stand up to the truth.
I did get to Buchenwald the next day and I stared. I stared in embarrassed silence, thinking about the doubts I’d had in college and even more recently…I’d like to have taken Professor Boulding by the hand and shown him around Buchenwald. I was angry that I’d been fooled. For the first time, I knew for certain that any peace is not better than any war.
Andy Rooney, My War 2002
There are certain things that just stick in your head, one of the things that stick into mine was one Andy Rooney 60 minutes commentary on the Death Camps.
I remember how he talked about seeing the camp himself, and how serious he was when he said: “yes it happened, I saw it”.
I couldn’t find the video online but I couldn’t help think of it when I saw this story
The Rialto school district planned to revise an eighth-grade assignment that raised red flags by asking students to consider arguments about whether the Holocaust — the systematic killing by the Nazis of some 6 million Jews and millions of others — was not an “actual event” but instead a “propaganda tool that was used for political and monetary gain.”
And that brings me to Pam Geller, Robert Spencer and Boko Haram.
Pam & Robert have been sounding the call on Radical Islam for a long time Part of those warning has been about Boko Harem in fact if you do a search for Boko Harem on Geller’s site
Take a good look at that figure
That’s more than CNN, more than CBS, ABC. or MSNBC (NBC’s newly redesigned site doesn’t display numbers)
But even Pam’s figures that beat all the major news organizations pale next to the 12,000 plus results at Jihad Watch:
For their efforts Pam & Robert are attacked as Islamophobes particularly by the Counsel on American Islamic Relations if you search their site there is no shortage of attacks on Pam or Robert as “islamophobes” who should be shunned.
If you are searching for info on Boko Haram the choices at CAIR are a tad more limited:
Yup one result.
Perhaps if the “moderate” muslims of CAIR been speaking out about Boko Haram and not trying to silence those who did try to warn the world about them, more than a hundred young girls might not be waiting to be sold into slavery today.
Andy Rooney had Ike and the whole US army to back up his testimony concerning Nazi atrocities that are still denied in parts of the Middle East. Pam & Robert fight a much lonelier battle trying to shine a light on that which many wish hidden. They are perhaps less like Andy Rooney than like those who were sounding warning about the Nazi’s during the 30’s and were ignored or questioned until the day the US Army drove into the camps.
And years from now, likely long after they are dead and gone, young children will walk through a museum and see the story of how a soft spoken author from New England and an outspoken woman from New York tried to sound the warning about dangers like Boko Haram against incredible odds.
Whether or not it will be a story of success or yet another tale of the world not acting until millions have paid the price, remains to be seen.
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Harry: Oh, dear, Edmund: The Archbishop of Canterbury has met with the most tragic accident! There seems to be some confusion, but I think I’ve fathomed out on how it came about.
Edmund:Yes, I think I’ve got a pretty shrewd idea myself.
Black Adder The Archbishop 1983
Capt Blackadder:I remember Mattingburg’s most famous case, the case of the bloody knife. A man was found next to a murdered body, he had the knife in his hand, thirteen witnesses that seen him stab the victim, when the police arrived he said, “I’m glad I killed the bastard.” Mattingburg not only got him off, but he got him knighted in the New Year’s Honors list, and the relatives of the victim had to pay to have the blood washed out of his jacket.
Blackadder Goes Forth Corporal Punishment 1989
As I was writing yesterday’s piece concerning Communism and the clash between Stacy McCain & Jesse Myerson something about the exchange seemed hauntingly familiar.
You had a young person whose entire experience of reality via the liberal educational/media complex vs an older man experienced in the history of the world and the actual reality of what people have said and done both opining on the same subject Communism.
The youth expresses an idealized version of a philosophy detached from the blood it is soaked in and tags those who would point to the ocean of red with the epitaph McCarthyite! Meanwhile the elder not only details the history of Communism showing the bodies but also notes the declarations of the founds of said philosophy detailing the necessity of those deaths.
The left’s silence in the sanitizing of the philosophy that has spilled more blood than any other in the last 100 years is less confusing if you watched the left’s favorite network, NBC describe Russia’s Soviet Past as
The revolution that birthed one of modern history’s pivotal experiments.
George Orwell, call your office. As he wrote in “Politics and the English Language,” in 1946, such euphemisms are “designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable,” and certainly describing Communism as “one of modern history’s pivotal experiments” fits the bill in spades.
While the attempt to divorce the history, actions and blood of a philosophy and the labeling of any pushback against said attempt as “McCarthyism” (complete with automatic twitter bot) is a rather horrifying offense against reality, it is no surprise to people like Pam Geller & Robert Spencer who have been dealing with this reality for over a decade in the case of Radical Islam.
A Somali cabdriver was sentenced Friday to six years in prison for his role in a broader San Diego-based conspiracy to provide material and logistical support to the Islamic terrorist group, al-Shabaab.
Ahmed Nasir Taalil Mohamud from Anaheim was the last of four defendants to be sentenced in connection with the conspiracy that sought to transfer funds to al-Shabaab through a now- defunct hawala or money-transmitting business system in San Diego, the Shidaal Express.
where are the mass marches of “moderate” Muslims in the country, denouncing the sharia and its vicious blasphemy laws?
Where is the big, brash left in America? Where are Colbert and Stewart? Penn and Belafonte? And the feeble campaigns that I have seen make no mention of the sharia — the reason that this young man was jailed. If they won’t talk about why and how he was jailed, how can they hope to change things?
Where is the Obama administration?
to a press that would rather remain silent, she is tagged as “crazy” or an “islamophobe” and the target of insults from the left and some on the right as well.
It is good that a Muslim, Asma Uddin, is standing for religious liberty, but she is doing so in defiance of her own religious tradition. Muhammad himself commanded: “Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him” (Bukhari 9.84.57). This is still the position of all the schools of Islamic jurisprudence, both Sunni and Shi’ite. Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, the most renowned and prominent Muslim cleric in the world, has stated: “The Muslim jurists are unanimous that apostates must be punished, yet they differ as to determining the kind of punishment to be inflicted upon them. The majority of them, including the four main schools of jurisprudence (Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi`i, and Hanbali) as well as the other four schools of jurisprudence (the four Shiite schools of Az-Zaidiyyah, Al-Ithna-`ashriyyah, Al-Ja`fariyyah, and Az-Zaheriyyah) agree that apostates must be executed.” There is only disagreement over whether the law applies only to men, or to women also – some authorities hold that apostate women should not be killed, but only imprisoned in their houses until death.
Cairo’s Al-Azhar University, the most prestigious and inﬂuential institution in the Sunni world, certifies as a reliable guide to the practice and faith of the orthodox Sunni Muslim community a manual of Islamic law that states: “When a person who has reached puberty and is sane voluntarily apostatizes from Islam, he deserves to be killed” (Reliance of the Traveller o8.1). Although the right to kill an apostate is reserved in Islamic law to the leader of the community and other Muslims can theoretically be punished for taking this duty upon themselves, in practice a Muslim who kills an apostate needs to pay no indemnity and perform no expiatory acts (as he must in other kinds of murder cases under classic Islamic law). This accommodation is made because killing an apostate “is killing someone who deserves to die” (Reliance of the Traveller o8.4).
I’d have to replay: Why would you expect them to exist?
The same people who remain in denial about the history and reality of communism are the ones in denial about radical Islam. They are no different than Prince Harry in this this Exchange from the first season of Blackadder that I quoted in part above:
Prince Harry:You see, Archbishop Godfrey was coming out of the Duke of Winchester’s room–
Prince Edmund Blackadder: …who had just died, leaving all his lands to the Church?
Prince Harry:Well, as a matter of fact, yes.
Blackadder:And so the King was really after his blood, presumably.
Prince Harry:Well, I dare say, but the point of the matter is that, at that moment, round the corner, came Sir (Tabbis?) Mortimer.
Blackadder:: The King’s hired killer…
Prince Harry:No, no, no. Mortimer — that tall, rather striking fellow with no ears.
Prince Edmund Blackadder:Yes, that’s him.
Prince Harry:Well, he saw the Archbishop and rushed towards him with his head bowed, in order to receive his blessing, and, er, unfortunately, killed him stone dead.
Prince Edmund Blackadder:How?
Prince Harry:Mortimer was wearing a Turkish helmet.
Blackadder:Oh, I see, yes — one of those with the two feet spike coming out of the top?
Prince Harry:It’s one of those things they normally use for butting their enemies in the stomach and..
Both Harry & Blackadder:killing them stone dead.
Blackadder:Yes, so, presumably he’d forgotten he was wearing it.
Prince Harry:Well, do you know, that’s exactly what the poor fellow had done! A tragic accident…tragic.
It takes curiosity and courage to stand up to a culture of official denial backed up by money, epithets and in some cases threats,
Thank you for your invitation to me to become a Muslim and wield my sword against the enemies of Allah. But I’m afraid I must decline. While I appreciate the fact that becoming your “brother in Islam” might afford me a measure of personal security that I do not enjoy today, some things are more important than that. I cannot and will not give in to violent intimidation, come what may, and I do not want to live in a society that bows to such intimidation.
I believe that societies that respect the equality of rights before the law of all people, including women and religious minorities, as well as the freedom of conscience, are superior to those that do not. I hope that such societies will be able to summon the will to resist you and your “invitation” in all its implications before it is too late.
There is a reason why you will always see security around Spencer & Geller. Given that fact is it any wonder that so few have the courage to stand up and be counted?
Marks and all the awardees praised the vision and work of the Communist Party in their communities. The event was held on the occasion of the CPUSA’s 94th anniversary.
Former state Senator Ed Gomes, a steelworker, state representative Edwin Vargas, a teacher, and Laurie Kennington, president of Local 34 clerical and technical workers at Yale all accepted large framed posters of the Amistad statue that stands in front of New Haven City Hall, cheered on by family, friends, co-workers, elected officials and union and community leaders
but I’ll wager Jesse Myerson will be in the running.
Update 2: I’m not the first to make this connection:
Citing Stalin (circa 1949) as the contemporary personification, Monnerot elaborated on this totalitarian consolidation (“condensation”) of power shared by Islam and Communism, and the refusal of these universalist creeds to accept limits on their “frontiers.”
Update 3: It’s Everybody write about commie’s day. The Lonely conservative:
What I find interesting is how those who write off the Soviet regime as just some failed “experiment” have more compassion for lab rats in real experiments than communism’s victims.
Myerson is trying to explicate an ideological and/or moral reason for it being okay for the state to take your stuff for its own purposes. Such justifications always founder in the face of human nature. If you apply enough force (terror) you can sometimes get away with this sort of state-sponsored armed robbery for a long while, if by “getting away with it” means sowing the seeds for your own destruction.
Because in the real world, in actual practice, human vengeance always plays a role. Ask any number of murderous, thieving tyrants who ended up choking on their own blood at the hands of their victims.
I am willing to bet that it was mostly entrepreneurs who were responsible for the creation of all nearly all of those venues. Even library books are made by evil corporations. However Myerson feels about capitalism and its relationship to art, there is no denying that capitalism facilitates a lot of art exposure. Who the hell had ever heard of The Beatles before they met a record producer and signed a contract? Also, I can’t say I really care too much for the art they produced in the Soviet Union.
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Britain plans to classify “Islamist extremism” as a distinct ideology, British Prime Minister David Cameron said on Tuesday, as part the government’s response to the murder of a soldier on a busy London street.
Cameron said he would implement recommendations he had received from a task force he set up after the murder of Lee Rigby in May, to try to stop people being radicalised by “hate preachers”.
They’re emphasizing that it has nothing to do with genuine Islam. How they will explain why “Islamist extremists” move freely among authentic Muslims without being rebuked, repudiated, rejected or reported remains to be seen. And how far they will get in tackling this ideology while maintaining the falsehood that there is no justification in Islam for it is unclear. It would be more truthful for them to be honest about its Islamic derivation and challenge the Muslim community in the UK to reform and to work with law enforcement, but truth is at a premium in the UK these days.
It seems there are an awful lot of Muslims who share this ”Islamist extremism” hatred of the West. Perhaps I’m the only one who remembers watching TV news coverage on Sept. 11, 2001, when crowds of Muslims were dancing in the streets of Cairo and Gaza in celebration of the terrorist attacks masterminded by al-Qaeda.
All of these interpretations are valid but there is a bright side, a crumb if you will, that everyone seems to be missing that we should be very pleased about.
With the classification of “Islamic extremism” as an unacceptable ideology in England the question quickly becomes, “How do we define it?” What are the beliefs that constitute “Islamic extremism?”
Is it committing attacks on people in the name of Islam Islamic extremism?
Is it calling for attacks on people in the name of Islam “Islamic extremism?”
Is financially supporting attacks on people or those who call for attacks on people in the name of Islam “Islamic extremism?”
Is preaching in a mosque in support of attacks on people and or those people or organizations who do so in the name of Islam “Islamic extremism”?
and that’s just in terms of basic terror attacks, let’s go a bit further:
Is killing someone who converts from Islam “Islamic extremism?”
Is preaching it is acceptable to kill someone who converts from Islam “Islamic extremism?”
Is financially supporting either those who kill or preach that killing someone who converts from Islam “Islamic Extremism?”
We can play this game all day with Honor killing, attacking gays, attacking non Muslim in “Islamic” areas etc etc etc…
Once these things are defined (and we need to pressure them to be defined) then it will be an easy matter to point out the people, the groups and the Mosques that fail within the definition of “Islamic Extremism” and challenge England to act.
It’s a baby step, but with some effort and care England just might be taught how to walk:
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One of the things that really fuels success for the left is ignorance.
When you have people ignorant of the truth it is easier to sell the message of someone as a Hero and someone else as a villain and two stories today perfectly illustrated this.
First we have this from Marquette University where they are using Textbooks authored by Domestic Terrorist Bill Ayers. Turning Point USA decided to see what the Student body thought of that fact.
It’s actually gratifying to see that the youth of America when actually informed of who Bill Ayers is rejecting him.
On the other end we have Pam Geller who has, along with Robert Spencer been regularly vilified by the same left. You might recall they were banned from entering England and the reason given was was banned from England, supposedly because their presence was “not conducive to the public good“,
Today in the Daily Caller we discover that their actual motivations were a tad more shall we say “nuanced”
I have received initial feedback from Post to say that they do not expect that there would be any reaction from the US Administration to these exclusions.
We do have concerns with some of the reasoning in the sub, particularly citing pro-Israeli views and. [sic] Pro-Israeli views (and also support for waterboarding) apply to a large number of Americans, including former Presidents. If, for instance, Geller and Spencer were to request details of their exclusion under FOI/DPA or other mechanism, that being pro-Israeli is cited as a reason may be problematic and they could argue publically that their exclusion is on the basis of their support for Israel.
I may get further advice from Post later tonight which I will send to you first thing in the morning. Meanwhile, we advise removing references to being pro-Israel from the main body of the sub as this is not grounds for exclusion.
So we have the Government trying to hide support of Israel as a motivating factor for banning Americans. That’s bad enough but it gets worse when you consider who they dispatched to build the case against Pam & Robert:
One of the other among a multitude of agencies investigating our case was a Casework and Operations Red Team for Special Cases. That’s right: the Home Secretary employed a Red Team on our case. Red Teams are designed to devise new strategies and approaches to deal with a threat.
A Red Team to investigate Pam & Robert? Seriously?
Now if this information had been revealed at the time of their banning England might have found themselves much too embarrassed to follow through and questions might have been asked about the use of taxpayer funds earmarked to defend Brittan to suppress speech rather than protect the public. Are these Red Teams or the Neville Chamberlain Teams? Frontpage Mag nailed it:
To the Dhimmi crowd, being pro-Israel is just another way of offending Muslims and when you offend Muslims, then bombs start going off.
Last year on the occasion of their banning I said this in an open letter to the British Government:
With the decision to exclude Pam Geller and Robert Spencer who have argued tirelessly against Jihad, against Honor Killings and against Islamic Violence you have taken an action that is so diametrically opposed to the principles of freedom of speech and expression that I would not think a country that calls itself “free” would dare do so.
The revelation of these documents unfortunately removes the blissful and convenient ignorance of these facts. The left can only hope that they can do their best to maintain the ignorance of this to the general public indefinitely
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Saturday at Noon EST on DaTechGuy on DaRadio we talk the 2nd Egyptian Revolution and the Muslim Brotherhood
Ray Hanna from the Boston Chapter of Act for America will join us to talk about the Revolt, what it means for Egypt and the Coptic Christians who are already paying the price.
In the second hour Author and Islam Expert Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch joins the conversation talking Egypt, the Muslim Brotherhood and I’m sure he’ll have more than a few words about the outrageous behavior of the English Government banning him and Pam Geller’s entry to the country.
And of course we’ll have a few things to say about his new book Not Peace but a sword that you can buy here:
But there is at least one bright side to the story. Pat Condell in his latest video commented on the British Government’s actions saying in part:
Robert Spencer is an Islamic Scholar he knows the Koran better than most Muslims…He and Pamela Geller have been banded from Britain because they tell the truth and because the truth is a threat to Islam therefore the truth according to the UK government is not conducive to the public good.
Here is the full video
Pam Geller is a Jew, Robert Spencer is a Devout Catholic and Pat Condell…
…he is one of the most well-known and most viewed atheists on the internet.
So the British home office can take heart, they have Jews, Christians and Atheists on the same side, they are now officially a uniter! Cue the music:
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As a defender and advocate of the freedom of speech I would like to formally request denial of entry into the United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland.
With the decision to exclude Pam Geller and Robert Spencer who have argued tirelessly against Jihad, against Honor Killings and against Islamic Violence you have taken an action that is so diametrically opposed to the principles of freedom of speech and expression that I would not think a country that calls itself “free” would dare do so.
As a person who has long admired England and its history I am simply astounded that the land that brought us Magna Carta the basis for the limitation of the power of royalty, the Nation whose common law has been the foundation on which the principles of the protections of right of men all over the world, including those United States have their origin. The country that stood alone against one of the greatest and most powerful forces of repression that the world has faced has decided that a 50 something Jewish Woman of modest means and a soft-spoken Catholic man are so dangerous, so unacceptable and so beyond the pale that their presence and live presence at a political rally threatens the peace of the nation.
I have often wanted to go to England and only the incompetence of those in charge of our travel kept my wife and I from honnymooning there a quarter century ago. I have dreamed of visiting some of the places where the history of the world was made and shaped not to mention indulging my sons and I in our Doctor Who fandom.
However I can’t reconcile those desires with the exclusion of my two countrymen whose only offense is to try to protect the equal rights of all Englishmen of any race, creed or color under British law and know that if I found myself in England in addition to all the things I would want to see and do I would be ethically compelled to seek out the political allies of Ms. Geller & Mr. Spencer and if they will have me, speak in their place.
Therefore to save everyone the time and effort of investigation, letter writing and appeals I hereby request to be denied entry to the United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland until such time as said restriction is removed from Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer.
Rick Blaine:What ever gave you the impression that I might help Laszlo escape?
Captain Renault: Because, my dear Ricky, I suspect that under that cynical shell you are at heart a sentimentalist. Laugh if you will, but I happen to be familiar with your record. Let me point out just two items: In 1935, you ran guns to Ethiopia. In 1936, you fought in Spain on the Loyalist side.
Rick Blaine: And got well paid for it on both occasions.
Captain Renault:The winning side would have paid you much better.
It is no secret that I’m a big supporter of Pam Geller & Robert Spencer but being fairly ignorant on the David Stein stuff I’ll simply say this:
I’ve never understood the willingness of people, particularly on the right to go after Pam & Robert. I particularly don’t get the people who seem to have it in their minds they are all in this for the cash.
Let me remind everyone that if Pam & Robert were willing to lend their voices to the other side they would find the financial rewards quite satisfactory, I suspect that would be true even if they were willing to just shut up, plus they could send their bodyguards home.
Yet they fight on.
If that doesn’t clue you in, I don’t know what will.
One of the great controversies of CPAC was Robert Spencer and the people’s choice award. If you have forgotten Robert overwhelmingly won the award by the votes of the people, but was asked (or told depending on who tells the story) not to mention conflicts with Grover Norquist et/al at CPAC. He refused as was not scheduled to speak at CPAC
Likewise Pam Geller was not allowed to hold an event at CPAC as she had for years. Al Cardenas took a different view than David Keene who while critiquing and being critiqued by Geller nevertheless gave her room for an event.
All of this changed when the Breitbart Crowd created their “Uninvited” panel and invited both Robert & Pam to speak on it.
I got there a tad late because of my live radio show . When I walked in the place the double sized room was pretty full.
I came in during Frank Gaffney’s talk
He was followed by Nina Shea
and then Robert Spencer
and finally Pam Geller
There were plenty of camera there, including a reporter from Media Matters who interviewed me earlier in the week.
Since I got to the Panel late I spoke to Rosemary Jenks after the fact
I confess I had never heard of her (and boy is she tall)
There was Q & A and the first question came from someone who was upset at being uninvited to the uninvited panel:
this was Orly Taitz refered by the media as the “birther queen”. I confess for the first half of the time I was there I was right next to her and didn’t recognize her.
She made her case during her question and was clearly upset at not being given a spot on the panel but I suspect the left was more so.
Then came questions on other subjects
What we are about
I asked one on the Anti-antis
That was very nice of Pam BTW got a complement from my Media Matters friend on the subject too.
On Nuclear Stockpiles
On the Muslim Brotherhood & keeping people out
On using these issues politically
On the legality of Burning the Koran and the closing
The answer: ” I don’t burn books, Nazi’s burn books” is classic
Ms. Taitz not withstanding it was a celebration of free speech and Breitbart should be proud to be holding it, and frankly CPAC should be ashamed that it had to be held.
A cunning person wanting to marginalize the people on the panel would have given them space day one at say 9 or 10 am and got it over and done with. These guys are not only wrong, they’re not even smart.
How delicious. Since the story broke of Grover Norquist’s and Suhail Khan’s successful Geller ban, good and decent freedom loving folks have been up in arms. Because it’s not about me. It’s about the subject matter — that discussion of sharia and jihad has been effectively banned at the largest Conservative gathering in the country. And now thousands of Conservatives know too, Grover, your days as the most powerful influence peddler in Conservative circles are numbered.
CPAC chief Al Cardenas called me Tuesday to he tell me how much he admired my work. He wanted to meet with and join him for lunch and/or din with him. He spoke of working collaboratively together. What that means and where it will go is anyone’s guess.
I was aced out of the CPAC People’s Choice Blog Award by those who were desperate to avoid discussion of the Islamic supremacist ties of Grover Norquist and Suhail Khan. Well, they’re going to get it anyway:
The irony of course being the Robert was supposed to speak at the Catholic Men’s Conference in Worcester Ma at the same time he will be speaking at CPAC before being dis invited.
The ultimate Irony? This panel will be at the same time as DaTechGuy on DaRadio’s live broadcast.
So I get to miss Sarah Palin, and Phyllis Schlafly and now I get to miss Pam & Robert too.
But the rest of CPAC doesn’t and THAT’s the point!
In my last post I noted Richard Dawkins, atheist extraordinaire and his interesting opinion on Radical Islam just to recap:
Asked if he thought the same of the God of the Koran, Dawkins ducked the question, saying: “Well, um, the God of the Koran I don’t know so much about.”
Really? A man as educated as Dawkins doesn’t know much about the god of Islam? that’s pretty odd because there was a time that Professor Dawkins wasn’t so reticent about the topic. Let’s back up to just two years ago to an interview posted at Freethought nation:
“I’m reasonably optimistic in America and Europe. I’m pessimistic about the Islamic world. I regard Islam as one of the great evils in the world, and I fear that we have a very difficult struggle there.”
In fact we don’t even have to go back that far, let’s try January 29 of 2013
Like Alexandria, like Bamiyan, Timbuktu’s priceless manuscript heritage destroyed by Islamic barbarians bit.ly/XbYBD5 Vive la France
What could possibly have occasioned such a change in such a short time? I’ve got a clue:
A prominent Danish critic of Islam, Lars Hedegaard, has been targeted in a gun attack in the capital Copenhagen, police say.
The 70-year-old writer and historian was not injured in the shooting.
The gunman approached Mr Hedegaard pretending to be a postman and missed with a shot at his head, police said.
That story is dated February 5th of this year. Hedegaard, one of the Mohammad cartoonists was asked, isn’t it foolish to provoke Islam? His answer:
“you could have said the same thing about the White Rose in Germany, the resistance group. They ought to have known that if they said something about Nazism, they would be killed. Or you could say the same thing about the Danish resistance movement during the German occupation. It was said to them: do not go out and sabotage. Collaborate and shut up, otherwise you’ll get to a concentration camp and you’ll be executed. You could have said the same thing to Winston Churchill or the British Army — why the hell make trouble? You know what’s going to happen if you resist — you’ll be killed. Yes, and many of them were.’
and the media?
And what of the media, which — particularly after the smears around the failed prosecution — have regularly portrayed him as a bigot? Do they have any culpability in this? Hedegaard is reluctant to apportion secondary blame, but finally says this:
‘You can certainly say that if you are constantly presented as an enemy of the people, as I have been, then you are fair game for any lunatic. You cannot blame some lunatics for thinking that you can easily come and kill me, because if you read all this day in and day out, year in and year out, the man is an absolute lunatic and full of lies and bile and what not, you can get him with impunity. Yes, of course I think it plays a role.’
Does that sound familiar to you, I guarantee it sounds familiar to Pam Geller and Robert Spencer. I suspect it sounded familiar to Richard Dawkins prompting his sudden Volte Face. As Glenn Reynolds put it.
Don’t want your religion attacked? Behead a few attackers. It doesn’t take many — most of them are cowards and poseurs, and will shut up at the least hint of risk. Hey, don’t blame me. I didn’t set up this incentive system.
Dawkins has apparently learned the lesson of Hedegaard & MollyNorris, he has submitted. Pam Geller and Robert Spencer are made of sterner stuff.
We are devastated that Jim LaBriola has been sick and look forward to his full recovery, but if you really want to make him feel better, buy his CD Heart Improvement. It will not only bring a smile to his face but will bring many to yours.
And Join us next week as we have Pam Geller and Robert Spencer join us concerning his removal as a speaker at the Catholic Men’s Conference and her inability to get a room for her Annual event at CPAC.
Robert Spencer’s warnings on Radical Islam might have turned off the press and the local arch diocese, but if you really want to see warning signs on the dangers of on Radical Islam all you have to do is read the news from Mali
On Jan. 3 they took her to the Islamic tribunal. Just eight days before French President Francois Hollande unilaterally approved a military intervention in Mali on Jan. 11, Salaka was convicted of being caught with a man who was not her husband and sentenced to 95 lashes. It was a severe punishment even by the standards of the Islamists.
They took her to the market at noon on Jan. 4, the same place where she bought the beef for the brochettes she sold and the flour used to make her mother’s flatbread. She recognized the meat sellers. One of them used his phone to record what happened next.
The police made her kneel in a traffic circle. They covered her in a gauze-like shroud. They told her to remove her dress, leaving only the thin fabric to protect her skin from the whip. Curious children jostled for a better view.
What they did to her was witnessed by dozens of people in Timbuktu, and can still be heard on the meat seller’s cell phone.
The executor announced Salaka’s crime and her punishment. Then he began flogging her with a switch made from the branch of a tree. Her high-pitched cries are contorted with pain. You can hear the slap of the whip. You can hear her labored breathing.
They hit her so hard and for so long that at one point she wasn’t sure if the veil had fallen off. She could feel the blood seeping through.
When it was over, they told her that if they ever saw her with a man again, they would kill her.
Criticism of Morsi’s administration has mounted lately after a string of violent sexual assaults on female protesters in Cairo’s Tahrir Square. On Wednesday, an international rights group warned mob-led sexual assaults will only increase if perpetrators are not punished.
Amnesty International said statements from victims show that the assaults follow a “clear pattern” where mobs of men encircle the victims, assault them with weapons and hands and then try to undress them.
Amnesty’s warning followed a statement from the U.N. human rights office, which last week said that about 25 women were reportedly sexually assaulted – in some cases with extraordinary violence – in Tahrir Square during recent demonstrations against Morsi.
The square witnessed a number of assaults against women – both protesters and journalists – in the aftermath of the uprising. Women have been stripped, groped and raped at demonstrations there.
Well you can’t blame them, after all here is what the clerics are saying:
Mohamed ElBaradei was responding to well-known ultraconservative cleric Mahmoud Shaaban, who said in a TV show last week that the opposition should be punished by death for seeking to bring down a leader who has been elected by the public.
“God’s verdict is death,” he said amid a new wave of protests against Islamist President Mohammed Morsi.
The fatwa, or religious edict, followed another one by hard-line cleric Magdi Ghoneim who said: “I publicly incite to kill the thugs, criminals, thieves, and those who burn the country and kill the innocents.”
In East London, a group under the name of “Muslim Patrol” have been posting YouTube videos showing them patrolling the streets of predominantly Muslim neighbourhoods and harassing people who they think are not conforming to Muslim law, the moral code and religious law of Islam.
That report comes from that unreliable right wing site known as Al-Jazeera. You know the folks Al Gore sold Current TV to.
“The Muslim patrols could become a lot more dangerous and, perhaps willing to maim or kill if they are joined by battle-hardened jihadis.”
Not only Britain, but some other European countries with Muslim populations – including Denmark and Spain – have witnessed a similar rise of home-grown Islamic street militants and thugs.
“Something very worrying is spreading across Europe. Fascists and Islamist extremists alike are copying what Hitler’s Brownshirts excelled at — enforcing with threats and violence their version of the law in neighborhoods,” Nawaz wrote.
“I fear that the Muslim patrols are a sign of things to come. … The longer we stand by and watch the far Right and Islamists impose their dogma on our streets, the more the extremes will become mainstream for a rising new generation.”
those are not the words of Robert Spencer, they are the words of Maajid Nawaz, a moderate Muslim in charge of a think tank advocating against extremism.
The Globe might be able to keep Mr. Spencer out of the Catholic Men Conference, but it will be hard pressed to keep these incidents out of the news, particularly as they become more common.
Radical Islam is coming, we can deal with it now, or we can ignore it.
This weeks’ progress Eighteen bucks to go for this weeks’ paycheck
Yesterday Robert Spencer 60 people came to see Robert Spencer speak at the VFW in Natick Massachusetts
People came to see him
Even from as far away as NJ to Support Robert after he was dropped from the Worcester Catholic Men’s Conference
This Event was sponsored by the local act Chapter:
And Mr. Spencer’s remarks ran about 45 minutes
where he talked about Islam and free speech
He spent a fair amount of time signing books and also stood for an interview with me on the evening and the situation with the Diocese of Worcester:
But the majority of his time was spent in the Q & A for the 70 or so attendees for the speech
on Sunni vs Shia Islam:
Whitewashing Islam in education
and much more (below the fold)
Robert will be my Guest on DaTechGuy on DaRadio March 9th to speak further about this situation.
I’m in the middle so to speak. I know the Bishop and his spokesperson and am also a friend of Robert’s. If the goal is to avoid controversy, that has failed spectacularly. The question now become, what is the thing that is just and right? Or put another way, this is much like the New Evangelism. We are going to get considerable pushback when we go to boldly proclaim the truth of the message of the Church of Christ. Will we have the courage to speak when objections are made by those who wish to silence us?
I urge you to pray for all concerned that God may grant the gift of discernment.
Tonight Mr. Spencer will be appearing at the Natick VFW Post 1274 this evening at 7 PM to speak about the “Organization of Islamic Cooperation” a UN organization whose agenda is to criminalize any critique of Islam.
I would urge people were planning to attend the Catholic Men Conference in Worcester Next month to consider offering the Suggested donation of $20 and see what the local Islamic groups and the Boston Globe didn’t want you to hear.
Why in the world isn’t the mainstream media covering this? Because it doesn’t fit their perfect little meme that the Christians are mean and evil to the innocent Muslims. A few blogs have covered this, but that’s all.
I’m sure Lisa Wangsness will get around to it eventually
Update: As of today here we are on this week’s goal:
And so it was that I was scheduled to appear at a Catholic Men’s Conference in Worcester, Massachusetts on March 16, until today, when the Roman Catholic Bishop of Worcester, Robert McManus, directed that my appearance be canceled. McManus was under pressure from Islamic supremacist groups who were calling and emailing the diocese demanding that he cancel my appearance. I’ve been informed that they were asked to call the diocese and demand the cancellation by a Boston Globe reporter named Lisa J. Wangsness, who contacted me this morning and appears to have instigated the entire controversy.
It will win us no friends and simply embolden those who hate the church and wish to bring us down.
I know Robert Spencer, he’s a good and honorable man, Bishop Robert McManus is a good man and has been an excellent bishop but the key word here is “man” and every man makes a bad move on occasion.
The dis-invitation of Robert Spencer to this year’s Worcester Catholic Men’s Conference is not a sin, but it is a shame.
I have sent an e-mail urging the Bishop to reconsider this decision and I would further urge you to pray the Bishop be given discernment, (Perhaps the guardian Angel prayer).
Angel of God his guardian dear, to whom God’s love commits him here, ever this day be at his side, to light, to guard to rule to guide.
This btw is a prayer that should be used liberally for people and for yourself in times of temptation.
And next week on the 26th don’t miss Jack Mitchell as we talk about his book Fireside Chat which deal with faith, current politics and the attempt to drive religious faith from the public square.
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Yesterday Robert Spencer spoke at the Jewish Federation of New Hampshire in an event sponsored by New Hampshire for Israel. The topic was: “Is Resistance to Jihad Terror a Right-Wing Issue?” 120 people showed up for the event.
The characteristic of Pains and Pleasures is that they are unmistakably real, and therefore, as far as they go, give the man who feels them a touchstone of reality. Thus if you had been trying to damn your man by the Romantic method—by making him a kind of Childe Harold or Werther submerged in self-pity for imaginary distresses—you would try to protect him at all costs from any real pain; because, of course, five minutes’ genuine toothache would reveal the romantic sorrows for the nonsense they were and unmask your whole stratagem.
One of the biggest problems that our friends on the left tend to run into is the disturbing habit of reality to intrude on their message. While this has been a real issue on the domestic front the biggest exclamation points have been in the world of Islamists.
In France the brutal murder of Jewish Children and a Rabbi which got short shift here has apparently made a difference in France and their reactions:
President Nicolas Sarkozy ordered a study on the evolving threat in prisons after last month’s killings, and the justice minister called for greater intelligence gathering in prisons and more Muslim prison chaplains.
This is a good first step, but it appears they are slightly unclear on the concept:
Justice Minister Michel Mercier recently announced he wants a full-time security official devoted to intelligence gathering in each large prison and closer working ties between the prison administration and intelligence agencies. He also wants an increase in the number of Muslim chaplains in French prisons.
“A new phenomenon has appeared, the self-radicalization of some prisoners,” Mercier said. “Mohamed Merah read the Quran alone and it is his own interpretation that led him to radicalization.”
Sarkozy has called self-radicalization “the worst thing for democracies,” apparently referring to the difficulty in detecting this solitary transformation without trampling on civil liberties.
The idea of “Self radicalization” only works if you ignore the pronouncements of radical Imans all over the middle east and within Europe. An increase in chaplains will only be positive if those chaplains are well screened for radical teachings. Of course some would argue that this is inherent to Islam itself, but still this is a positive step, you can’t address a problem properly if you don’t even acknowledge there is a problem to begin with.
Justice Minister Rob Nicholson has ordered Ottawa professor Hassan Diab to be extradited to France to face terror-bombing charges.
“Mr. Diab was committed for extradition on June 6th, 2011 by the Superior Court of Justice,” Justice Department spokesman Christian Girouard wrote in an email. “On April 4th, 2012, the minister of Justice ordered his surrender to France.
It only took four years after the request for this order to take place. I’ll wager the murders in France had a lot to do with this. This is one of the times where the strong French influence in Canada has likely made a difference.
But more significantly Canada is notorious for tolerating Islamic radicalism, that this case is moving at all is significant.
Item: Salon walking “murder” accusation back
After spending serious time accusing Pam Geller and Robert Spencer of inciting murder it appears Salon magazine is finding itself walking back
Indeed, in the days after her death several revelations called the hate-crime allegation into question. On April 4, an affidavit for a search warrant about the murder was “accidentally released,” according to the New York Times. The San Diego Union-Tribune, which first received the document, claimed it shows a “family in turmoil and cast doubt on the likelihood that her slaying was a hate crime.” Alawadi was said to be planning on leaving her husband, based on blank divorce papers found in her vehicle. Last November, police investigating reports of two people possibly having sex in a car found Fatima with a 21-year-old man. After her mother was called to pick her up, Fatima allegedly jumped out of the moving car at 35 mph. While being treated at a hospital for her injuries the court records state, “Police were informed by paramedics and hospital staff that Fatima Alhimidi said she was being forced to marry her cousin and did not want to do so she jumped out of the vehicle.”
Remember the writer is a co-founder of Occupy Wall Street Journal. Gupta still attacks both Geller and Spencer in the piece but is put in the uncomfortable position to note the holes in the “hate crime” story.
This is in Sharp contrast to what the same magazine was saying just a week before:
“What we do know,” wrote Mónica Novoa confidently on March 30, “is that Alawadi 17-year-old daughter Fatima, found a note next to her slain mother’s body that read, ‘This is my country. Go back to yours, terrorist.’ Those words and the animosity and bigotry experienced by Muslim communities of diverse racial backgrounds is rooted in years of ignorant stereotypes.”
We now know that we didn’t really know any such thing.
This revelation Friday morning, along with the release of information that made it look much more likely that Alawadi was a victim of honor killing than of murderous “Islamophobia,” stopped a few of the more circumspect among the Islamic supremacists: the Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC) tweeted a claim that it had always had doubts about the “hate crime” claim.
Of course there are those who are too invested in the old narrative:
Islamic supremacist writer Reza Aslan, however, who had initially blamed Pamela Geller and me for the murder, reacted with scornful indifference to the news disproving his claims, and continued to promote Hoodie and Hijab rallies.
The has been the worst of all possible worlds for Islamic apologists. Most of the time Pam and Robert are standing alone looking for justice for victims of Honor Killings who are slaughtered without fanfare. The Islamist left attempt to use the killing of Shaima Alawadi to attack Geller and Spencer has instead made her the face of Honor killings to their readers who had heretofore not has the subject before them.
Filmmaker Nicky Larkin went to Israel and the west bank to make a film about the conflict between Israel and “Palestine”. Nicky arrived in Israel with a particular point of view but reality pushed him in the face, hard:
But the more I felt the martyrs watching me, the more confused I became. After all, the Palestinian mantra was one of “non-violent resistance”. It was their motto, repeated over and over like responses at a Catholic mass.
Yet when I interviewed Hind Khoury, a former Palestinian government member, she sat forward angrily in her chair as she refused to condemn the actions of the suicide bombers. She was all aggression.
This aggression continued in Hebron, where I witnessed swastikas on a wall. As I set up my camera, an Israeli soldier shouted down from his rooftop position. A few months previously I might have ignored him as my political enemy. But now I stopped to talk. He only talked about Taybeh, the local Palestinian beer.
and then came stories like this:
He talked slowly about his time in Gaza. He spoke about 20 Arab teenagers filled with ecstasy tablets and sent running towards the base he’d patrolled. Each strapped with a bomb and carrying a hand-held detonator.
The pills in their bloodstream meant they felt no pain. Only a headshot would take them down.
and when he came back with his film Forty Shades of Grey his peers didn’t like what they saw:
My peers expected me to come back with an attack on Israel. No grey areas were acceptable.
The fall-out has been quite spectacular. I’ve been called everything from a Protestant to an agent of Mossad. Letters to the editor have been flying in since, like rockets from the Strip. But, unlike the rockets from Gaza, not all the letters have been sent with spleen.
and like conservatives in Hollywood his support comes in hushed tones for fear of the “tolerant” left.
I didn’t expect the support from a largely silent group of people — Irish people. It seems there are true liberals out there; people prepared to listen to both sides of the story. Unfortunately they are surrounded by foaming scarf-wearers, clutching their boycott sheets and Bic biros.
It’s the foam that gives the fear. Nobody wants to be bitten by a rabid dog. Or a Bic biro. So, as a result, the Irish support I’ve received has been largely by private correspondence. Strictly for health reasons. I’m contagious.
Yet more proof courage is the virtue that makes every other possible.
One can hold back reality for only so long.
Update: added … to the title as a setup for my next post.
If there is one constant at CPAC for me year after year it is that the event I least wish to miss is my friend Pam Geller’s.
This year was no exception but I found myself running late and literally running up the hill to try and get there on time. When I finally figured out where the McKinney Room was I had to talk my way into it because there was simply no room and I only come in wide body.
As usual the speakers were incredible,
(memo to self, BUY A MONOPOD ASAP)
My plan was actually to film the speaker but Robert was making such important points that it was important not to miss them
One thing about this video, I point out that when this case was won, it was won before a Dearborn jury. That is a very hopeful sign (yes I still have hope).
Because I didn’t have my laptop I couldn’t switch out my video card so I had only limited video capability. But I was able to interview some of the other speakers at different times such as J. Christian Adams:
Who I interviewed with his wife the next day in the bloggers lounge:
There was a Q & A afterwards and a rather spectacular looking woman told a story of an interesting encounter at CPAC, I ran into her later in the day and only then found out that she Ann Marie Murrell and associated with Victoria Jackson and a new group called Politichicks.
May I be so bold as to suggest that Roxeanne De Luca would be an incredible addition to “Politichicks” but I digress.
At the end of the Q & A I was able to bring up Molly Norris and was surprised at how many there didn’t know her story.
It seemed to impress some people because a woman from Sun TV Canada pulled me aside and interviewed me on camera, (still looking for the video). The publicity for me is good to make a living but I’ll trade it for a story on that network about Molly Norris 6 days a week and twice on Sunday.
There is more coverage of Pam’s event at her site and also here and here
Ilario Pantano didn’t speak long but her got a roaring reception
Eileen Walsh lost a son
I would have very much liked to have known Nelly Braginskaya before she lost her son, she struck me as a person who was full love life.
Sally also lost a son.
It always seem to be the women who persists when other falter
Rosaleen spoke first and I think her presentation was the strongest
Also speaking was Rosa Leonetti of Smart Girl Politics. I don’t have film or photos but she raised important points such as:
“The Ground Zero mosque is not a political football.”
“Two Imans were replaced but they persist and so will we”
She also noted that people of the left have no problem trying to trace tea party funding but they don’t try to find where the money for the ground zero mosque is coming from.
One of the things that really shocked me was the statement that city counselors apparently said they opposed the Mosque privately but couldn’t support the 9/11 families publicly. I asked about this during the Q & A:
This event was scheduled at the same time as a Ron Paul event directly across of it. I don’t think this was a coincidence. Pamela fearlessness in speaking openly about things that others would like to forget makes some uncomfortable (just as Reagan’s calling the soviets an evil empire annoyed many) as she reports Salon.com being salon painted things a tad differently. I think it is significant that Pam embedded Elliott’s film and linked to it yet Salon didn’t deem it worthwhile to link to the video of Pam’s event so readers could see for themselves.
For the life of me I can’t understand Mayor Bloomberg support for these guys. As a man as comfortable as he is I don’t see what there is to gain.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Pam Geller is a national treasure I was proud to have her on my show and I’d be happy to have her back again. Like many others who have sounded warnings in times of crisis we ignore her at her peril, Luke 4:24 could be written about her.