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It has now been a full 5 days where the media has immersed itself in a fanat­i­cal feed­ing frenzy con­cern­ing Her­man Cain. This allows us to judge with a more prac­ticed eye the effect this “scan­dal” has had upon him.

Some very cred­i­ble blog voices on the right, (that I’ve already linked to) are cer­tainly not sat­is­fied have declined to run to the bar­ri­cades (“show me the Car­Fax”) before sid­ing with Cain but blog­gers and media aside the real test is what the GOP vot­ers think.

We’ve already seen a par­tial answer with the Cain Money bomb already 20% toward its goal, and now we have polling that has come out AFTER the break of the “scan­dal

Busi­ness­man Her­man Cain and for­mer Mass­a­chu­setts gov­er­nor Mitt Rom­ney are run­ning nearly even atop the field of 2012 GOP pres­i­den­tial hope­fuls, a new Wash­ing­ton Post-​ABC News poll shows, with most Repub­li­cans dis­miss­ing the harass­ment alle­ga­tions that over the past week have roiled Cain’s campaign.

This despite a relent­less attack by a media who would frankly love to bring Cain down because:

1. It hurts their cho­sen can­di­date

2. No mat­ter what else there is no ques­tion that Cain is a conservative

3. He is a seri­ous threat to give black vot­ers, already upset with Obama, to vote for the GOP ticket

4. They con­sider him their intel­lec­tual inferior

The con­trast to the press on the Clin­ton story is astound­ing. The MSM has to be dragged scream­ing and kick­ing to the story and when cov­er­ing it did their best to defend a pres­i­dent who they still idol­ize and celebrate.

In this case the media is try­ing to drag the pub­lic to this scan­dal but the media has for­got­ten some­thing crit­i­cal. The MSM, CNN, NBC, MSNBC, ABC, CBS etc etc etc base audi­ence not only doesn’t include the GOP base which dis­trusts and despises them, or as Stacy McCain put it:

Repub­li­cans are extend­ing their mid­dle fin­gers to the media and say­ing: “You don’t get to choose our nom­i­nee for us.”

and even worse repub­li­cans who don’t sup­port Cain are say­ing stuff like this:

Politico has now framed dis­cov­ery of the iden­tity of the source as is a note­wor­thy story. Yet, Politico knows that if the iden­tity of the source is a story, it is only because Politico itself is being coy. Politico has reported that Perry may be the source and that Rom­ney may be the source. Yet, Politico knows pre­cisely whether the Perry cam­paign or the Rom­ney cam­paign (or both … or nei­ther) is the source. It is thus almost cer­tainly true that at least some of the con­flict­ing alle­ga­tions Politico is air­ing are known by Politico to be false. In fact, both the Perry and Rom­ney camps have denied involve­ment — if it so hap­pens that one of those camps is the source, then Politico knows the denial is a lie, yet it pub­lished the denial any­way. That would amount to col­lud­ing with its source in order to tar­nish Cain while fraud­u­lently por­tray­ing its source as above the fray.

In sum, Politico is pub­lish­ing at least some things it knows to be mis­lead­ing or untrue, and fram­ing as a great mys­tery some­thing to which it knows the answer. That can only be because Politico finds the specter of the Repub­li­can cir­cu­lar fir­ing squad more appeal­ing than the prospect of inform­ing read­ers of the accu­rate ver­sion of events.

And even bits that made it to the con­ser­v­a­tive press has results like Cainaquid­dick: Where Source-​Based Jour­nal­ism Goes to Die

Remem­ber the ini­tial story caused Cain to rise in my own Her­man Cain vs Rick San­to­rum derby (With Newt com­ing up on the out­side) how do you think the GOP vot­ing base that already despises them and dis­trusts Mitt Rom­ney.

I think we have to start to con­clude that this has been a big plus for Her­man Cain for sev­eral reasons:

1. It endears him to the base

2. It has enhanced his fundraising

3. The con­stant unend­ing cov­er­age blocks out every other GOP candidate’s attempt to get attention.

4. It has caused some of the bright­est and most pop­u­lar mem­bers of con­ser­v­a­tive media to come out swing­ing for days.

and most importantly

5. It has tested the Cain Cam­paign early at a time when he actu­ally needs to be tested. Even a poor job han­dling this pro­vides vital expe­ri­ence for the next polit­i­cal cri­sis that comes a vital skill for any poten­tial pol

And his fans is learn­ing:

From a con­ser­v­a­tive stand­point the unmask­ing of the MSM as a tooth­less tiger unable to stop Cain is nearly as appeal­ing as the press’ new found prob­lem when bring­ing up the Clin­tons but it is to Clin­ton that this must be com­pared, no mat­ter how bad the Clin­ton Scan­dal got, the press stood behind him and he not only fin­ished his pres­i­dency but even now is sought after and adored by the MSM.

In that respect Her­man Cain has become Bill Clin­ton, only with­out actual evi­dence of wrong­do­ing. No mat­ter what the press decides to throw he is com­ing up on top.

Yet all is not lost for the MSM, while they are fail­ing mis­er­ably to bring down Cain, thanks to their scan­dal cov­er­age it allow­ing them to ignore any num­ber of sto­ries that are mas­sively damaging

And Stacy McCain has this to say:

It is absolutely imper­mis­si­ble for a lead­ing can­di­date for the pres­i­dency to be pub­licly accused of sex­ual mis­con­duct by anony­mous accusers. We have been told that the women them­selves did not push this story to the press, and they would have pre­ferred that the mat­ter remain con­fi­den­tial. But now that the accu­sa­tion is pub­lic, how can the accusers remain anonymous?

And to hell with a con­fi­den­tial­ity agree­ment at this point. Any­one who thinks it pos­si­ble to enforce a con­fi­den­tial­ity agree­ment now, when descrip­tions of these cases have already become front-​page news every­where, needs to wake up to reality.

If you believe Her­man Cain’s denial of these accu­sa­tions, you should demand noth­ing less than com­plete dis­clo­sure of the entire story, in con­fi­dence that he will be vindicated.

I agree with that statement.

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Update: As far as I can see this is game set and match, from CBS news:

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I can’t see how Cain doesn’t win at this point. Not only does this sug­gest this is all over but he wins BIG. The MSM has thrown all they have at him and it’s failed.

Update 2: Stacy and Smitty react as does the Cain Cam­paign.

It has now been a full 5 days where the media has immersed itself in a fanatical feeding frenzy concerning Herman Cain. This allows us to judge with a more practiced eye the effect this “scandal” has had upon him.

Some very credible blog voices on the right, (that I’ve already linked to) are certainly not satisfied have declined to run to the barricades (“show me the CarFax”) before siding with Cain but bloggers and media aside the real test is what the GOP voters think.

We’ve already seen a partial answer with the Cain Money bomb already 20% toward its goal, and now we have polling that has come out AFTER the break of the “scandal

Businessman Herman Cain and former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney are running nearly even atop the field of 2012 GOP presidential hopefuls, a new Washington Post-ABC News poll shows, with most Republicans dismissing the harassment allegations that over the past week have roiled Cain’s campaign.

This despite a relentless attack by a media who would frankly love to bring Cain down because:

1. It hurts their chosen candidate

2. No matter what else there is no question that Cain is a conservative

3. He is a serious threat to give black voters, already upset with Obama, to vote for the GOP ticket

4. They consider him their intellectual inferior

The contrast to the press on the Clinton story is astounding. The MSM has to be dragged screaming and kicking to the story and when covering it did their best to defend a president who they still idolize and celebrate.

In this case the media is trying to drag the public to this scandal but the media has forgotten something critical. The MSM, CNN, NBC, MSNBC, ABC, CBS etc etc etc base audience not only doesn’t include the GOP base which distrusts and despises them, or as Stacy McCain put it:

Republicans are extending their middle fingers to the media and saying: “You don’t get to choose our nominee for us.”

and even worse republicans who don’t support Cain are saying stuff like this:

Politico has now framed discovery of the identity of the source as is a noteworthy story. Yet, Politico knows that if the identity of the source is a story, it is only because Politico itself is being coy. Politico has reported that Perry may be the source and that Romney may be the source. Yet, Politico knows precisely whether the Perry campaign or the Romney campaign (or both . . . or neither) is the source. It is thus almost certainly true that at least some of the conflicting allegations Politico is airing are known by Politico to be false. In fact, both the Perry and Romney camps have denied involvement — if it so happens that one of those camps is the source, then Politico knows the denial is a lie, yet it published the denial anyway. That would amount to colluding with its source in order to tarnish Cain while fraudulently portraying its source as above the fray.

In sum, Politico is publishing at least some things it knows to be misleading or untrue, and framing as a great mystery something to which it knows the answer. That can only be because Politico finds the specter of the Republican circular firing squad more appealing than the prospect of informing readers of the accurate version of events.

And even bits that made it to the conservative press has results like Cainaquiddick: Where Source-Based Journalism Goes to Die

Remember the initial story caused Cain to rise in my own Herman Cain vs Rick Santorum derby (With Newt coming up on the outside) how do you think the GOP voting base that already despises them and distrusts Mitt Romney.

I think we have to start to conclude that this has been a big plus for Herman Cain for several reasons:

1. It endears him to the base

2. It has enhanced his fundraising

3. The constant unending coverage blocks out every other GOP candidate’s attempt to get attention.

4. It has caused some of the brightest and most popular members of conservative media to come out swinging for days.

and most importantly

5. It has tested the Cain Campaign early at a time when he actually needs to be tested. Even a poor job handling this provides vital experience for the next political crisis that comes a vital skill for any potential pol

And his fans is learning:

From a conservative standpoint the unmasking of the MSM as a toothless tiger unable to stop Cain is nearly as appealing as the press’ new found problem when bringing up the Clintons but it is to Clinton that this must be compared, no matter how bad the Clinton Scandal got, the press stood behind him and he not only finished his presidency but even now is sought after and adored by the MSM.

In that respect Herman Cain has become Bill Clinton, only without actual evidence of wrongdoing. No matter what the press decides to throw he is coming up on top.

Yet all is not lost for the MSM, while they are failing miserably to bring down Cain, thanks to their scandal coverage it allowing them to ignore any number of stories that are massively damaging

And Stacy McCain has this to say:

It is absolutely impermissible for a leading candidate for the presidency to be publicly accused of sexual misconduct by anonymous accusers. We have been told that the women themselves did not push this story to the press, and they would have preferred that the matter remain confidential. But now that the accusation is public, how can the accusers remain anonymous?

And to hell with a confidentiality agreement at this point. Anyone who thinks it possible to enforce a confidentiality agreement now, when descriptions of these cases have already become front-page news everywhere, needs to wake up to reality.

If you believe Herman Cain’s denial of these accusations, you should demand nothing less than complete disclosure of the entire story, in confidence that he will be vindicated.

I agree with that statement.

BTW if you like this post please consider kicking in to my November Fundraiser. Still 260 subscribers short at the Beanie Level ($2 a week) of paying the bills.

Update: As far as I can see this is game set and match, from CBS news:

Well that sounds like a credible accuser

I can’t see how Cain doesn’t win at this point. Not only does this suggest this is all over but he wins BIG. The MSM has thrown all they have at him and it’s failed.

Update 2: Stacy and Smitty react as does the Cain Campaign.