ReadabilityIs conservative new media worth as much as the occupods?
I must admit I’m a bit jealous of the occupods in one respect when I see this post at Don Surber’s blog.
Somehow, they were able to spend a few months in the fall camping out and protesting against the working class while not working themselves.
They are in that upper 1% who do not have to work.
I don’t begrudge anyone what they already have, if they are rich enough to hand out then that’s fine. My jealously is based on how, well their friends on the left (and in the unions until the useful idiots were no longer useful) managed to kick in to keep them in tents, food and protests for two months. The tens of thousands of dollars that occupy New York, Occupy Oakland and occupy Portland (before their 20 grand was stolen) came from somewhere.
The left makes an effort to keep those who fight their battles supplied and ready to fight. On the right it is a bit leaner. Consider when New York Magazine mentioned Mitt Romney raised over 10 million in under 8 hours what Stacy McCain wrote:
we are struck by the sharp contrast between how George Soros employs his wealth — to build a media infrastructure for advancing his broad political agenda — and how wealthy Republicans spend their own money: To advance the narrow personal ambition of Mitt Romney.
Why are rich Republicans so clueless? They are shoveling money at a candidate who suffers tepid support among the GOP grassroots and is therefore unlikely to win the nomination.
And lets remember when Jimmie Bize crunched the numbers further based on not even Mitt’s 10.3 million or Herman Cain’s 7 million sitting in the bank but on Charlie Crist’s 4.3 million dollar quarter from 2010:
Do you know how much good reporting we could get with a budget of just $500,000 a year? Think about it. Play with the numbers. You think I couldn’t land Vadum and McCain for 70 grand a year, plus add in Ace and Moe Lane for blogging power at the same amount? That’s only $280,000. Set aside fifty grand for tech stuff (hosting, design, troubleshooting) and advertising, another 60K for expenses (to pay reporters to go on the road and for freelancers), 60K for an editor, and 50K to me for supervising the whole operation and there you go. There’s $500,000 a year. And that doesn’t count any potential income the site might get from outside advertising, which you know it’ll get. As the site grows, the budget can creep up, but only for people who will add direct value to the site, but we add on as advertising revenues warrant the increase.
Think of a major league team building a farm system and look at the long terms from those numbers as Jimmie Does
Divide $500,000 into $4.3 million. That’s how long I could run a hypothetical conservative news site with the money dunderheaded conservatives gave Charlie Crist in just three months. Meanwhile, Stacy had to rattle the tip jar so hard his teeth ached to get just a few hundred bucks to do some original reporting in rural Kentucky. That’s ridiculous.
No what’s ridiculous is what happened a few days ago. Before the blogger conference call with Rick Santorum Friday Stacy McCain suggested I should make a point to record the call so I can use clips on the radio show. I replied I don’t have the necessary equipment for my line. He mentioned it is available at any Radio Shack for $50 – 75 bucks and I was forced to reply that I don’t have the $50 – 75 to spend for it.
The left is funding it’s occupods and its new media to the point where TPM is getting question time on GOP candidates conference calls. Meanwhile forget the $70K in Jimmie’s example. Since June I covered the St. Anselm debate in NH, the Dartmouth debate from the spin room, reported live from blogcon including reports on the occupods, Covered Herman Cain, Mitt Romney, Sarah Palin and Rick Santorum in NH, Barney Frank’s press conference and teaparty and GOP events and more. Yet although the radioshow is managing to cover its expenses the results of my November fundraiser were so dismal that I’ve closed out my 401k (tax hit not withstanding) to keep up with the house bills for the next several months.
Forget the 70K that Jimmie was talking, for 70% of that I could not only support the blog and the house but travel to cover the candidates without wondering if Freedomworks can help with the cost of a plane ticket. For 40% of that I could support the blog and house for a year and still cover events in a 150 mile radius without help and with the 10K that Mitt is willing to bet that pays for 3 months and 300 posts not counting the Under the Fedora Column at the Minority report and the Conservatory.
It’s a frustrating thing. In 2011 so far over 560,000 visits have been recorded on this site and the old. There has been a lot of words both written and quoted in support of conservatism, here on the blog, elsewhere on the net and even a piece than ran in the New York Post during Weinergate. How much is that worth to the conservative movement? How much is a radio show that reaches six states featuring and highlighting conservative writers from all over the nation? You would think it would be worth at least as much to the conservative movement as the occupods are to Soros and the left.
Yet, as a conservative I understand that my work is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. It doesn’t matter if I drive north to check out the Gingrich Huntsman debate today, the question is. What is that growing set of eyeballs on the blogs and ears on the radio worth to the conservative movement?
I submit that it’s certainly worth the $200 a week I need to pay the house bills, or the $500 a week that can support the blog for a year. In fact I’d dare to say it’s worth the $800 a week it would take to finance 6 trips a year to cover big events.
And I’m just one blogger, there are at least a dozen other bloggers on the right worth at least as much if not more. Stacy again:
For the $4 million that the permatanned RINO Charlie Crist collected during that single three-month span of 2009, you could fund eight spiffy little New Media operations for a year (or four such operations for two years). And FEC contribution limits do not apply to people making “investments” in news operations, so that the rich Republicans would not be restricted in their generosity toward New Media, as they are toward political candidates.
Soros has figured this out. Rich Republicans have not.
As I’ve said before my advertisers are looking for a return on their investment and that what they should be looking for, but if you are looking to advance the conservative cause in both the short term (an election cycle) and in the long term (to get the word out there and change minds) I suggest that if you are a conservative this site and sites like it are an investment in changing the narrative or as Stacy put it:
Does it not occur to you, my clever readers, that these are not merely business losses, but are in fact a sort of charitable endeavor to support the propagation of fashionable liberalism?
There are an awful lot of us working very hard to advance conservatism, I suggest it’s made a difference. If that’s not worth conservative support and conservative dollars I’d like to know what is?
Update: How Ironic is it that this post gets an Instalanche while I’m up at St. Anselm College covering the Gingrich Huntsman debate
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(photos, video and interviews to be up soon)
Update 2: Apparently I was up too soon after being sick and crashed in the middle of writing my Newt & Huntsman post. But if those who hit DaTipJar yesterday want to know what they paid for here is my coverage.
I’ll have the Huntsman event up later today.
Update 3: Boy I really struck a nerve in Kim Du Toit from comments:
DTguy: this is the actual reason I quit. I worked over ten hours a day, every single damn day, on my blog, which garnered tens of thousands of unique views daily. Everyone praised me and told how great a blog it was, right up to the time I would need money to pay the bills. Then I’d publish a bleg and get more angry comments about “sponging” than I got contributions, like my own time, hundreds of hours per week, was just… worthless.
It’s not just me. For some reason, conservatives think that media sponsorship is beneath them – why else do you think that even worthy organizations like National Review and Patriot Post have to grovel for money all the time? If they’re struggling, what chance do individuals like you (or me, for that matter) stand?
Read the whole comment.
Update 4: Now a Memeorandum thread and linked by Atlas, the Lonely Conservative, the western experience and Goldfish and Clowns
Update 5: Ladd Ehlinger weighs in:
Conservative donors would rather donate to celebrities like Chris Christie or Mike Huckabee, or presidential candidates they’d prefer to see win — without recognizing how much “oomph” a particular blogger or other might give to that candidate’s efforts.
Through all of this, one has to wonder why Mike Huckabee needs a PAC. Or Karl Rove. What exactly are these PACs doing? Are they “winning” anything? Or are they simply churning donor money for the aggrandizement of the celebrity?
Soros and his ilk fund Media Matters, Think Progress, et. al. Conservatives toss their money into landfills.
And for those who may be tempted to jump into the comments and screech about the Koch Brothers, as far as I can tell, their pattern of funding is the same as all the other conservatives. I may be wrong, but the impression I get is, when they’re not funding NPR documentaries on string-theory, the Kochs are tossing their cash into the celebrity landfill, too.
I must admit I’m a bit jealous of the occupods in one respect when I see this post at Don Surber’s blog.
Somehow, they were able to spend a few months in the fall camping out and protesting against the working class while not working themselves.
They are in that upper 1% who do not have to work.
I don’t begrudge anyone what they already have, if they are rich enough to hand out then that’s fine. My jealously is based on how, well their friends on the left (and in the unions until the useful idiots were no longer useful) managed to kick in to keep them in tents, food and protests for two months. The tens of thousands of dollars that occupy New York, Occupy Oakland and occupy Portland (before their 20 grand was stolen) came from somewhere.
The left makes an effort to keep those who fight their battles supplied and ready to fight. On the right it is a bit leaner. Consider when New York Magazine mentioned Mitt Romney raised over 10 million in under 8 hours what Stacy McCain wrote:
we are struck by the sharp contrast between how George Soros employs his wealth — to build a media infrastructure for advancing his broad political agenda — and how wealthy Republicans spend their own money: To advance the narrow personal ambition of Mitt Romney.
Why are rich Republicans so clueless? They are shoveling money at a candidate who suffers tepid support among the GOP grassroots and is therefore unlikely to win the nomination.
And lets remember when Jimmie Bize crunched the numbers further based on not even Mitt’s 10.3 million or Herman Cain’s 7 million sitting in the bank but on Charlie Crist’s 4.3 million dollar quarter from 2010:
Do you know how much good reporting we could get with a budget of just $500,000 a year? Think about it. Play with the numbers. You think I couldn’t land Vadum and McCain for 70 grand a year, plus add in Ace and Moe Lane for blogging power at the same amount? That’s only $280,000. Set aside fifty grand for tech stuff (hosting, design, troubleshooting) and advertising, another 60K for expenses (to pay reporters to go on the road and for freelancers), 60K for an editor, and 50K to me for supervising the whole operation and there you go. There’s $500,000 a year. And that doesn’t count any potential income the site might get from outside advertising, which you know it’ll get. As the site grows, the budget can creep up, but only for people who will add direct value to the site, but we add on as advertising revenues warrant the increase.
Think of a major league team building a farm system and look at the long terms from those numbers as Jimmie Does
Divide $500,000 into $4.3 million. That’s how long I could run a hypothetical conservative news site with the money dunderheaded conservatives gave Charlie Crist in just three months. Meanwhile, Stacy had to rattle the tip jar so hard his teeth ached to get just a few hundred bucks to do some original reporting in rural Kentucky. That’s ridiculous.
No what’s ridiculous is what happened a few days ago. Before the blogger conference call with Rick Santorum Friday Stacy McCain suggested I should make a point to record the call so I can use clips on the radio show. I replied I don’t have the necessary equipment for my line. He mentioned it is available at any Radio Shack for $50-75 bucks and I was forced to reply that I don’t have the $50-75 to spend for it.
The left is funding it’s occupods and its new media to the point where TPM is getting question time on GOP candidates conference calls. Meanwhile forget the $70K in Jimmie’s example. Since June I covered the St. Anselm debate in NH, the Dartmouth debate from the spin room, reported live from blogcon including reports on the occupods, Covered Herman Cain, Mitt Romney, Sarah Palin and Rick Santorum in NH, Barney Frank’s press conference and teaparty and GOP events and more. Yet although the radioshow is managing to cover its expenses the results of my November fundraiser were so dismal that I’ve closed out my 401k (tax hit not withstanding) to keep up with the house bills for the next several months.
Forget the 70K that Jimmie was talking, for 70% of that I could not only support the blog and the house but travel to cover the candidates without wondering if Freedomworks can help with the cost of a plane ticket. For 40% of that I could support the blog and house for a year and still cover events in a 150 mile radius without help and with the 10K that Mitt is willing to bet that pays for 3 months and 300 posts not counting the Under the Fedora Column at the Minority report and the Conservatory.
It’s a frustrating thing. In 2011 so far over 560,000 visits have been recorded on this site and the old. There has been a lot of words both written and quoted in support of conservatism, here on the blog, elsewhere on the net and even a piece than ran in the New York Post during Weinergate. How much is that worth to the conservative movement? How much is a radio show that reaches six states featuring and highlighting conservative writers from all over the nation? You would think it would be worth at least as much to the conservative movement as the occupods are to Soros and the left.
Yet, as a conservative I understand that my work is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. It doesn’t matter if I drive north to check out the Gingrich Huntsman debate today, the question is. What is that growing set of eyeballs on the blogs and ears on the radio worth to the conservative movement?
I submit that it’s certainly worth the $200 a week I need to pay the house bills, or the $500 a week that can support the blog for a year. In fact I’d dare to say it’s worth the $800 a week it would take to finance 6 trips a year to cover big events.
And I’m just one blogger, there are at least a dozen other bloggers on the right worth at least as much if not more. Stacy again:
For the $4 million that the permatanned RINO Charlie Crist collected during that single three-month span of 2009, you could fund eight spiffy little New Media operations for a year (or four such operations for two years). And FEC contribution limits do not apply to people making “investments” in news operations, so that the rich Republicans would not be restricted in their generosity toward New Media, as they are toward political candidates.
Soros has figured this out. Rich Republicans have not.
As I’ve said before my advertisers are looking for a return on their investment and that what they should be looking for, but if you are looking to advance the conservative cause in both the short term (an election cycle) and in the long term (to get the word out there and change minds) I suggest that if you are a conservative this site and sites like it are an investment in changing the narrative or as Stacy put it:
Does it not occur to you, my clever readers, that these are not merely business losses, but are in fact a sort of charitable endeavor to support the propagation of fashionable liberalism?
There are an awful lot of us working very hard to advance conservatism, I suggest it’s made a difference. If that’s not worth conservative support and conservative dollars I’d like to know what is?
Update: How Ironic is it that this post gets an Instalanche while I’m up at St. Anselm College covering the Gingrich Huntsman debate

The stage just before the debate
(photos, video and interviews to be up soon)
Update 2: Apparently I was up too soon after being sick and crashed in the middle of writing my Newt & Huntsman post. But if those who hit DaTipJar yesterday want to know what they paid for here is my coverage.
I’ll have the Huntsman event up later today.
Update 3: Boy I really struck a nerve in Kim Du Toit from comments:
DTguy: this is the actual reason I quit. I worked over ten hours a day, every single damn day, on my blog, which garnered tens of thousands of unique views daily. Everyone praised me and told how great a blog it was, right up to the time I would need money to pay the bills. Then I’d publish a bleg and get more angry comments about “sponging” than I got contributions, like my own time, hundreds of hours per week, was just… worthless.
It’s not just me. For some reason, conservatives think that media sponsorship is beneath them–why else do you think that even worthy organizations like National Review and Patriot Post have to grovel for money all the time? If they’re struggling, what chance do individuals like you (or me, for that matter) stand?
Read the whole comment.
Update 4: Now a Memeorandum thread and linked by Atlas, the Lonely Conservative, the western experience and Goldfish and Clowns
Update 5: Ladd Ehlinger weighs in:
Conservative donors would rather donate to celebrities like Chris Christie or Mike Huckabee, or presidential candidates they’d prefer to see win – without recognizing how much “oomph” a particular blogger or other might give to that candidate’s efforts.
Through all of this, one has to wonder why Mike Huckabee needs a PAC. Or Karl Rove. What exactly are these PACs doing? Are they “winning” anything? Or are they simply churning donor money for the aggrandizement of the celebrity?
Soros and his ilk fund Media Matters, Think Progress, et. al. Conservatives toss their money into landfills.
And for those who may be tempted to jump into the comments and screech about the Koch Brothers, as far as I can tell, their pattern of funding is the same as all the other conservatives. I may be wrong, but the impression I get is, when they’re not funding NPR documentaries on string-theory, the Kochs are tossing their cash into the celebrity landfill, too.
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The problem is the right and left look at it differently. As the owner of a small vc firm and a consulting company I look at it like this. Dont come to me and ask me to give you $500,000, come to me with a business plan that shows me how you can turn that website into a company making more the $500,000 a year and I will invest in it. The left looks at it as changing the world. The wealth on the right looks at it as show me how my $500 thousand will get me a return on my investment. If you came to me with a business plan showing how a $1 million dollar investment in your media company would yield a 15-20% annual ROI. I would be able to secure funding for something like that. Is that the wrond mindset for the right to have no. Is it hurting us in the ideological battle. Yes it is. Do you think Murdoch is conserative, no I dont think so. I think he saw a large business oppurtunity and filled it thats why we got fox. Also, the left is vocal about getting companies to support their causes. Why dont we use are power as 40% of the population and tell these billion dollar coporations to put their money into things we want or we wont buy them.
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I feel your pain my friend. When I ran politicalbyline.com. I was lucky if I ever got a donation and the most I ever got was like a $50.00 donation for something I had written. I did get a bunch of recognition, even from the MSM in places. But that never equated to monitory gain, at all.
If it makes you feel any better, when I was running “The Populist’ back in 2006, which was not the farthest left of blog, in fact, it was a bit moderate; anyhow, I never made a DIME on that blog, at all.
Like Kim, I considered quitting and for a bit a just stopped. But, I love writing and defending what I feel is right. I wish I could make more, but, right now; it’s just not there. I lost the blog, due to a host, who decided to be a jerk about traffic spikes and claimed my blog was causing the server (it was reseller hosting) to become unstable. Funny thing, it had big spikes before and he never said a word. I tend to believe that System Admin was a liberal and didn’t like my political leanings and decided to be a jerk about it and cause me grief.
Anyhow, that’s the true reason why I ended up back on blogspot with the new blog. I still have politicalbyline backed up on my harddrive. Big ol’ gzip file. Hopefully, someday, I’ll be able to put it up as an archive to what I did for 5 years. But right now, I cannot afford even shared hosting. I have right now in my personal checking $73.22. Sad, ain’t it? But it’s my life. There are no jobs here in Michigan, at least not around here, and so, I write.
Sucks, but it is my life. I don’t complain about it at all though. I could be homeless and/or living under a viaduct. But, I’m blessed to have a family who happens to love me and are looking out for me. The writing on the blog is to fight boredom! It works too.
Be Well Sir and keep the Faith, it’s only going to get better from here.
-Charles Patrick Adkins
Lincoln Park, Michigan
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I am soon going to be forced into hiatus due to impending shutoff of my internet, so I figured it might be worth it to bang this drum one last time while I still can. I hope it helps, but I am not particularly optimistic.
It’s probably really obvious to you, Peter, but wouldn’t be to the Koch brothers: what services have bloggers provided? What stories were bloggers scooping? What stories did Fox or the WSJ pick up that bloggers kicked off? What have we done that went viral, so to speak?
Perhaps we – as bloggers – should start with some sort of bragging cheat sheet – “Look what we did!” – and start there. I know what you’re going to say: “Roxeanne, we all know what we’ve done”, but that’s not the point. We know it, but the bigwig donors have better things to do with their time than to figure out who was the one who hit back against the Left.
For hard-headed conservative businessmen, proven results are key. We know them; why not learn how to sell what we’ve done? These people aren’t mind-readers, nor should we expect them to be.
Show them you’ve made money in the past, have a plan to make a lot of money in the future. Otherwise, I’m sorry to say, they don’t give a ****, conservative or liberal (it might be useful to remind posters here that, despite your political differences with liberals, liberal businessmen and entrepreneurs don’t “depend” on handouts. many of them are brilliant and just as heartless as anyone else).
Outside of that, why is it so bad to influence and inform your friends and family? Put in some politics, entertainment, a little sports. Give them something they want to read, not “oh great, here’s so-and-so. They hate liberals so I already know what this is going to be without even reading it”. Be funny and look in out of the way places for stories on all kinds of different stuff.
You’re not going to get “funded” by the Koch brothers or anyone else. Just follow your passion and make it a fun read, not a chore. There is no barrier to entry in blogging and unless you have access to political figures, nothing to make you better than 99% of the stuff already there. Have fun with it.
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C’mon man. Do you seriously think that creating a blogging bureaucracy funded by people who are going to manage your thoughts as success? WTF kind of political business model is that? Too me this is selling out.
You need to start asking yourself what separates you from the pack and if there is nothing of note then what are you going to do to change that. Until then all you are accomplishing is whining and expecting entitlement.
Leave that to the Left, its the only GD thing they are good at.
I disagree Mike, it’s all in what the goal is. There are many ways I can support myself, the question is are conservatives out to win the battle of ideas or no?
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Standing somewhat outside partisan allegiance, I find it fascinating how these types of themes appear regularly on both sides. I guarantee you that posts like this – exactly like this, except switch liberal references for the conservatives ones, have appeared countless times in the liberal blogosphere.
C’mon guys – this “liberal media” bogeyman is so lame and tired. You guys have the biggest cable network, FoxNews, an “establishment” newspaper with equal reach as the NYT (the WSJ), you have conservative newspapers in all the major media markets (NY Post, Wash Times etc), and you dominate in smaller market newspapers. Plus, of course, you totally dominate on the radio. Even in the blogosphere – go to Memorandum some time and just count up the links to conservative vs. liberal blogs. Maybe it is just a bit of skew for Memorandum rather than the actual blogosphere, but the link numbers consistently skew rightward.
Your basic premise seems downright absurd from all that I have seen. The right seems to be far better at shoveling money to anyone who can possibly advance the movement’s cause, relative to the left. Kinda seems like you are trying to exploit a seam of “victim mentality” here – that too is an attitude one finds absolutely everywhere in the world of political discourse.
Joe if you are seriously maintaining that conservatism has anything near the reach in media as liberalism. That’s just funny.
Joe Citizen: WSJ and Fox News dominate because they are the only conservative outlets of their kind. The liberals spread their money, viewership, and readership between many, many outlets, which is why no one particular outlet is more influential than Fox or the WSJ, but, collectively, they are doing quite well.
You could have summed up the entire post with this:
“The marketplace has spoken.”
If what you are doing doesn’t bring people to you with armloads of cash and support, then what you are doing isn’t going to make you money. It could, in fact, make you happier if money were eliminated from the equation, but that just leads to more hippie punching.
Quit whining, pull yourself up by your bootstraps, and stop asking for a handout. If you care about what you’re doing, create a viable business plan to make it happen. Otherwise, accept the verdict of the marketplace and quite blegging.
Warren: That’s true, but it all depends on what you are selling.
If conservatives decide to let the MSM be fed by the left’s funded bloggers we will get exactly what we deserve.
I am in fact perusing my business model and it may pan out, but that just supports me, it doesn’t win the battle of ideas which is the whole point.
Supply, meet demand.
Has anyone considered that liberals do a lot more reading on the internet, while conservatives do a lot more radio listening and newspaper reading? I sympathize with the conservative bloggers here who cannot make a living off of blogging, but yelling at the consumer for not buying your product is useless. Clearly there is enough conservative blogging to go around, so you’d better ask yourself: how do I differentiate or where else can I go?
Whining about liberals supporting a media infrastructure is senseless. People patronize that media and spend money at those advertisers and the advertisers know who their audience is. Do you?
Three points. Lil Manny.
For myself, I spend quite a lot of time covering stories rather than sitting at home (example Yesterday’s Gingrich Huntsman debate) Drove up there, interviewed attendees before and after, covered the protests and the Huntsman event afterwards.
Secondly as a matter of fact I know my audience and if you click on my state by state stats you can see where it is city by city nationwide.
Finally you get what you pay for. If you don’t want to build a farm system to compete with the liberal media, that’s fine, if you do that’s fine too but consider where the counter to the occupods would have been without conservative media. It would have been sold to the public wholesale and they would have bought it.
That comment was not really meant for Datechguy. Clearly you have a niche, some media gravitas, and you offer information and insight that you cannot get anywhere else. In short, that meets the demand of what we, the readers, want. Would I pay for it? Ummm, well the advertisers here clearly replace your need for me to pay for it.
My point was only that conservative bloggers are mistaken to view the lack of support from the public as a political problem. It is a business problem. Your business has to solve a problem and the worst businesses out there are solutions in search of a problem.
There are harsh truths revealed in business. I’m not arguing that there is no need for a conservative media. I’m countering that maybe conservatives are happy with a few sources of media. Even flagship publications cannot support themselves through ads. That is revealing, correct?
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There was one thing I wanted to add but forgot before I went to sleep last night. I’m home with little kids. I used to telecommute work as a customer service rep before the second little one came, it requires a quiet work area during day time hours which I no longer can supply. One of the things I CAN do from home even in a not quiet house is write and the great thing about that is one can write at all hours. I subscribe to a lot of websites that list paying writing gigs. Every single one I have ever come across that has anything to do with politics or culture is looking for a liberal view point, and many of them pay quite well! Apparently there simply aren’t any paying gigs for Conservative writers (not ones that advertise that they are hiring, anyway). There are even full time jobs for bloggers, but again, they are looking for liberals. Does that strike anyone else as odd and/or frustrating?
Great post, Peter, next time I stop by I’ll try to do it when I am not about to fall asleep from cold medicine and prone to writing self pitying gibberish.
You make a compelling case for investment in the new conservative media. I have been blogging since September 2007, when I started in support of Mike Huckabee. Political Realities has evolved over the years since then, to the point that I can actually pay for the hosting with Google advertising. Other than that, I make nothing.
I am under no delusions about my writing and my wife often asks me what I think I am accomplishing. Maybe nothing is my reply, but I still believe I have something to say. I suppose I will continue to say it, as long as I am able.
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The difference is we don’t have tax money funding us, and we don’t have forced union dues funding is. The left is on the side of the government and government funds them. Its hard to compete with that.
DTguy: this is the actual reason I quit. I worked over ten hours a day, every single damn day, on my blog, which garnered tens of thousands of unique views daily. Everyone praised me and told how great a blog it was, right up to the time I would need money to pay the bills. Then I’d publish a bleg and get more angry comments about “sponging” than I got contributions, like my own time, hundreds of hours per week, was just… worthless.
It’s not just me. For some reason, conservatives think that media sponsorship is beneath them–why else do you think that even worthy organizations like National Review and Patriot Post have to grovel for money all the time? If they’re struggling, what chance do individuals like you (or me, for that matter) stand?
Conservatives are always bleating about the liberal hegemony of the media, but they want their own media to be free–think Rush Limbaugh would be as popular if his radio show was PPV (or in his case, PPL)? Don’t make me laugh. He’d be no different from the rest of us.
Truth be told, conservatives are a bunch of f****** tightwads, which is fine as a lifestyle. But if conservatives want their own media and yet refuse to support it, then they deserve all the CNN, MSNBC and New York Times drivel they get.
Liberals get the point: you need the media to get your message out, and communication costs money. Conservatives seem to think that communication is beneath them. Small wonder that the only time we get any kind of conservative message is through TV ads from wealthy, pablum-spewing candidates like Romney and bi-government types like Gingrich.
The only thing that makes me at all hopeful for the future is that voting is free. If liberals wanted to take over the process, they’d support high poll taxes, then get rich a******* like Soros to subsidize “their” voters. Conservative candidates wouldn’t get 10% of the franchise under those circumstances, because conservatives would be too damn stingy to pay a tax to vote.
“Then I’d publish a bleg and get more angry comments about “sponging” than I got contributions, like my own time, hundreds of hours per week, was just… worthless.”
Mission Accomplished, Kim. The lefty trolls did exactly what they set out to do. Meanwhile, those of us who did support you as much as we could…. whether by donating, buying the merch, subscribing to the podcasts via iTunes, etc. couldn’t make up for it, I guess.
You and Connie said the things we didn’t have the skill or the knowledge to say. I just wish you were still saying it.
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If you’re going to bring Soros at least you could compare him the right equivalent of the Koch brothers. Romney, Cain, etc fundraising should be compared to Obama fundraising, not Soros.
It is an absolute joke that you are claiming the right is not well-funded.
The incentives are different for the left and right (much to the advantage of the left) The left organizes and agitates for cronyism opportunities and subsidy while the right agitates for no actual gain but only to be left alone in peace. They (the left) are much more than casually motivated. Unfortunately I see no solution to this state of affairs. The causality is much clearer to them.
BINGO!
Nobody’s going to get rich off the efforts of principled small-government conservatives.
The left speaks for the powerful and the well-connected, many of whom are looking to continue on with the gravy train of quick bucks and backroom deals. It’s a lucrative enterprise.
We’re going in the opposite direction, fighting for individual liberty and opportunity. Everyone stands to benefit… but in the long run, with blood, sweat and tears.
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Party of Stupid, remember ? Circular firing squad, anyone ?
” I won’t support (X) because he’s not pro-life enough ”
” (Y) was for (Z) in 2000, I can’t support him ”
or whatever …. bla, bla, bla, bla.
I think this was what Mitch Daniels was talking about when he was calling for a “truce”.
Everyone laughed, because their precious single issue-to-die-for is more important than reversing the current downtrend before it becomes irreversible.
Hit your donate button and it didn’t work. Please fix for obvious reasons.
You are absolutely, completely right. We need much more infrastructure. I feel bad and made a small donation. I’m a struggling freelance writer myself, or it would have been more. I hope some of the wealthier will get wise and follow your suggestions.
Well Judith it is much appreciated, particularly since I was just up in New Hampshire covering Gingrich vs Huntsman (photos and videos to follow)
For 40k, I could put out, and properly advertise, and go on radio tour and some actual physical tour for about FIVE topical SF and Fantasy novels a year. Another 15k to get some editorial help for the books. And I could turn out a book with the lead hero very closely modelled on the Conservative nominee, or on some other useful topic of the day with relative ease.
Fact is, I was considering doing this with Palin as the Ranger of the North battling the evil Mesmer King (Obama from back in the days when people actually listened to him with respect).
The Left offers prizes, sabbaticals, and just has the slant of publishers to aid them. They spend a lot of effort keeping a Left culture of writing afloat. And for good reason. Practical men end up doing the bidding of thinkers they have never heard of. People think in the categories the Left wants them to because thats all they’ve been exposed too.
I picked up a recent fantasy novel in Books A Million. It looked interesting with a female blacksmith heroine…and she’s a lezzie who has to overcome her conservative Christian background to become a hero. I also reread John Ringo’s ‘Live Free or Die’, and lets just say that most conservatives would enjoy reading this book quite a bit…and so would a lot of independents.
One book is moving us toward a bad place,a nd the other is moving us toward a better situation.
Caveat: Yes, I’m well aware Ringo has written some ah, risque novels. LFD ain’t even if one of the minor characters is a lezzie AI.
The Right tends to rely on folk like Limbaugh and Ringo. They both are so good they don’t need help. Both are astoundingly skillful and productive. But the number of folk who can without much help totally dominate the AM dial for twenty years, or write more than one bestseller in a year are few and far between. Limit your cultural interest to those, don’t aid the many capable authors, and you limit the reach of teh Right.
Sharon Bielak was just a gal in David Axelrod’s neighborhood.
Give Democrats credit. They’ve given Obama nearly a billion $ war chest to smear R opposition w/.
Complete agreement. Think of what would happen if two films came out each year that promoted (in a subtle way) conservative values. I suspect that they would make piles of money, as well as spreading our values to people who are in the middle. I have written a screenplay about the Oberlin Rescue in the 1850s, in which the entire student body, and most of the faculty of Oberlin College surrounded a hotel and demanded that the deputy U.S. marshal and two private slavecatchers turn over their captive. This is something that could cross racial and political lines–and make a powerful point about the supremacy of human rights over the laws of men, as well as being a very entertaining piece of drama. But where would you find conservatives willing to fund such a movie? You can’t.
Two points.
1/ The Right and the Left operate by different mindsets. The Left operates to the core as a collective. Its why you see things like DailyKos with journals and the like. Or I could pose the reverse, why is it DATECHGUY off on his own doing a blog vs say being a member of HOTAIR?
I chalk it up to the fact that conservatives are hunters, leftists are gatherers. Each method and mindset calls for different skills.
2/ The Right has the burden to support itself. When the Teas aren’t off having a Rallye they are working their asses to pay the taxes for the Leftists that sitting on their asses.
Just a view.
It’s a fair view John
The analogy doesn’t seem to hold up very well. Maybe you got it reversed. Effective hunting, especially for pre-industrial age humans, was always a collective activity. Hunting as a gang – necessary because of our inherent weakness relative to our prey – requires above all else, communication, social cohesion, and strategic thinking.
Gathering, while often done communally also (sorry to say folks, but humans really are social animals), does not really need to be done with others. One can go off and gather on ones own.
It’s just that the Tea Party doesn’t have so many people who really really hate themselves so much that they would fund a proxy to fight against themselves. At least the union folks are smart enough to hire proxies for their picket lines, but these guys hire proxies to denounce their own station in life. That takes a special kind of …. stupid.
Occupy is working off donations and soros machine money — oh and taxpayers get the bills for their mess/clean up.
Tea party pays their own way.
Well its not like they’d do it themselves
They’ve seen it done before is all. I’m working my way through the BBC’s World at War from 1974. Volume 8 shows the rise of the national socialists, and all the details are there, right down to the tent cities. This should be required viewing.
The right is inductive.
The left is deductive.
Another reason the Tea Party can’t stay on the field as long as the Occupoopers is we have jobs.
Three points
Look at how well the lefts investments have done in radio. Air America anyone? It’s easy to criticize right leaning funders when the left already dominates the news.
Secondly, the Koch brothers tend to fund longer term, but, like good conservatives expect you to be able to turn their funding into a self sustaining business. It’s only the left that loves handouts.
Finally, if you scaled the funding of occupy to the size of the tea party, you would bankrupt bill gates
Ah, but most* of the left’s money is coerced (i.e., stolen) from the unwilling: people in “you must join the union if you want to work here” jobs, taxpayers who have no choice but to fund ACORN/NPR/etc., and so on, while the right relies on voluntary donations. Hence why the left fights so hard for things like card check rather than open voting for unionization (more unwilling union members = more dues to be spent on politics), and why they HATE lowering taxes (less money to spread among their favorite organizations — and yes, I know that lowering tax rates results in greater government income in the long run, but the left doesn’t know that).
In tough economic times, it’s hard to justify dropping $50 on something voluntary. Even when you consider it a long-term investment in the economy of the country, when you’re balancing “I can pay the electrical bill this month” against “I can invest in the long-term health of the country”, the electrical bill tends to get paid first. The long-term stuff is important, yes, but it won’t pay off for decades, and the bill has a much more immediate impact (and severe consequences, in the short term, for ignoring it).
* Note that not ALL the left’s money is coerced — there are plenty of people willing to give to Democratic candidates, etc. I wish they’d wise up, but it’s their choice what to do with their money, and that’s fine. But the coerced sources of income for the left are big ones, and they’re the ones they’ll fight hard to protect.
DaTechGuy: You have a point. Why not put together a somewhat more detailed business plan describing what you’d do if you raised $500k or more, then post it and announce a “money-bomb” drive and see what happens. May your tip jar runneth over. $500k is only 100,000 tips of $5.00, after all.
Mike I can describe it without a detailed plan, I’d finance myself and 5 other bloggers fulltime @ $50k each with the understanding that they are
1. conservative bloggers, advancing conservatives causes
2. Will blog and post daily on regional issues
3. Will invest 10% of said pay on regional and national travel and equipment to cover stories and/or candidates the MSM is ignoring.
That’s 300K I would then take 100k and with that
Give 10-20 bloggers with the same qualities as above $5000-10K each. These bloggers would all be people already working full time or part time jobs with the understanding that the money would be used to allow them to continue to blog while working part time and/or to keep the expenses down. They would supplement the first group and would be expected to attend at least one major conference and blog regularly.
Finally I’d take 50k of the remaining100k and give 50 other smaller or part time bloggers $1K to cover expenses for their conservative blogging.
I’d keep the last 50k in reserve for the inevitable lawsuits and expenses of this, but if I see a part time blogger who really should be going full time or if there is a major disaster for a full time or smaller blogger this is the “we’re here to help” fund.
Bottom line that half million funds 65 to 75 writers a year producing hundreds of story a day to advance conservatism.
Any questions?
Best idea ever, Peter! If it ever happens, I hope you’d consider taking me on as a part timer. I am dying out here. Traffic at an all time high for me with over 10k page views just since a few days ago and the only one to hit my tip jar was a fellow blogger.
Meanwhile, my internet & phone will be shut off just before Christmas if I can’t scrape together $120. Almost 40,000 page views for the last 30 days and only 1 tip jar hit, from a fellow blogger. We’re struggling just to cover basic needs and every month it gets harder. If a tenth of my readers gave 2-5 bucks, I’d be fine and able to start digging us out of the ever deepening hole. I’d also be able to finance some outings to cover things in person, which would be really neat and improve my blog material.
Too bad the deep pockets on the right only want to send money to their cronies and not to the people whose hard work they actually benefit from, the bloggers. They don’t even want to acknowledge we exist for the most part. I wonder how one gets a spot as a crony? I’m so sick of living like this, but there ain’t a way up and out at the moment.
I am still pretty sad about being excluded from the conference call you mentioned, I was promised I’d be in the next one though, if there is one, so we’ll see.
Did you see that Pamela Geller linked you? I hope her considerable audience helps get something moving in a positive direction for conservative bloggers!
On the other hand, we ARE the folks who believe in self-reliance.
Fair point Rob but I would suggest that I am providing a valuable service for the conservative movement and I provide it on the cheap as do many others, if we want to win the war of ideas wouldn’t investing in it make sense?
Rob,
So we should not donate to political candidates?
I’m certainly not donating to any political candidates so far. A few bucks to defeat the WI recalls. Of course, I’m also laying in supplies.
After that, most of my money goes to bloggers.
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