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"I'm not sure the White House wants to own it" Democrats meet Pyrrhus
On Morning Joe in the 7:15 hour David Gregory was asked by Harold Ford if Democrats will now be running on Obamacare. To those who have cheering the loudest over Obamacare being upheld, he answer was astounding:
He said congressional candidates in tough districts will not want to run on it and even the White House will may not want to own this issue, although they do.
Think about this all of you guys on the left who are cheering this morning and all you on the right who are glum. On the day when the Democrats should be in full celebratory mode, where the Morning Joe crowd is bursting with Schadenfreude you have the White House and congressional candidates running away after a huge victory. We haven’t seen anything like this since McClellan and the seven days.
Meanwhile Mitt Romney has raised millions in under24 hours and at the same time the Democrats can’t pay for their own convention the GOP is spending $2.2 million to promote GOP house candidatesONBOSTONTV.
As General Nathanael Greene said after Bunker Hill: I wish we could sell them another hill at the same price.
Update: Just after I published this Eric Cantor on Morning Joe called this a Pyrrhic victory for the White House and Chuck Todd when asked directly by Joe Scarborough if the “Claire McCaskill will want to run on this.” Todd admitted she and others congressional candidates are being “very careful” on this.
I hope the democrats enjoyed their one night stand, because their party will be paying for it through November and beyond.
Keeping Obamacare alive means Mitt Romney still has this unpopular plan to campaign against, including the individual mandate, the most unpopular part (60 percent of Americans oppose it). Do you really think turning the mandate from a government edict to a massive tax hike will make it more popular?
Update 3: That’s gotta smart
Update: The DaTechGuy Fundraiser is in progress, our goal is $3000 and any help is appreciated. (Hey if Mitt can raise 2.4 million in 24 hours a foot soldier in this fight should be worth at least $3000 or so. For details click here for the progress check the thermometer to the right and to kick in hit DaTipJar”.
On Morning Joe in the 7:15 hour David Gregory was asked by Harold Ford if Democrats will now be running on Obamacare. To those who have cheering the loudest over Obamacare being upheld, he answer was astounding:
He said congressional candidates in tough districts will not want to run on it and even the White House will may not want to own this issue, although they do.
Think about this all of you guys on the left who are cheering this morning and all you on the right who are glum. On the day when the Democrats should be in full celebratory mode, where the Morning Joe crowd is bursting with Schadenfreude you have the White House and congressional candidates running away after a huge victory. We haven’t seen anything like this since McClellan and the seven days.
Meanwhile Mitt Romney has raised millions in under 24 hours and at the same time the Democrats can’t pay for their own convention the GOP is spending $2.2 million to promote GOP house candidates ON BOSTON TV.
As General Nathanael Greene said after Bunker Hill: I wish we could sell them another hill at the same price.
Update: Just after I published this Eric Cantor on Morning Joe called this a Pyrrhic victory for the White House and Chuck Todd when asked directly by Joe Scarborough if the “Claire McCaskill will want to run on this.” Todd admitted she and others congressional candidates are being “very careful” on this.
I hope the democrats enjoyed their one night stand, because their party will be paying for it through November and beyond.
Keeping Obamacare alive means Mitt Romney still has this unpopular plan to campaign against, including the individual mandate, the most unpopular part (60 percent of Americans oppose it). Do you really think turning the mandate from a government edict to a massive tax hike will make it more popular?
Update 3: That’s gotta smart
Update: The DaTechGuy Fundraiser is in progress, our goal is $3000 and any help is appreciated. (Hey if Mitt can raise 2.4 million in 24 hours a foot soldier in this fight should be worth at least $3000 or so. For details click here for the progress check the thermometer to the right and to kick in hit DaTipJar”.
[...] pols have been running away from him for a year, black voters are hesitating over Gay Marriage, the Obamacare decision while painted as a victory has energized the tea party activists, and the once vaunted Obama money [...]
[...] wrist-slitty, today, I’m sensing a dawning of hung-over awareness; it’s hitting folks on both the left and the right like a bright sliver of light and it’s bringing either the wincing pain of doubt or [...]
Since most people hate Obamacare, and this questionable court decision puts it right back on the front burner, this can be a good issue for Romney. But Romney cannot close the deal until he has an answer to the constant dem attack I keep hearing, that Obamacare is just another version of Romneycare. I think I have a good answer here, but it will not work until Romney and his surrogates are willing to say it.
What Romney should say about this follows:
“The dems have often said that the plan for MA and Obamacare are the same thing. Let me explain here why they are wrong. First keep in mind that MA is far to the left of the rest of the nation, with an 80% dem legislature, and the views and desires of the people of MA are not the same as the rest of the nation. That is the choice of the people of MA, and as governor I had to respect that choice. As president, I will represent the entire country, not just MA. And the country as whole does not want this type of plan, especially when it is run from a huge distant burocracy in DC, that overides the wishes of individual states and citizens with a one size fits all approach. I will do everything I can to reflect the wishes of the people in the entire country, and repeal this bill. President Obama may beleive that what is good for MA is good for the rest of the contry, and everything can be run from DC, I do not. The choice is clear.”
Then Romney surrogates should respond to the dem attack as follows:
“Gov Romney has already said that what might be good and popular for the people of MA, run in MA, may not be either popular or good when imposed on the entire country, and run by a huge burocracy in DC. The fact that you dems cannot recognize the distinction between a choice mady by a state, and a one sized fits all approach imposed from DC, is a major problem with the entire dem governing philosophy.”
I beleive this approach would completely destroy the dem “Romney did it in MA too” attack, and turn it around into a good attack on the dems. It would also establish Romney as supporting the very good principle of federalism, and leaving decisions like this with the states.
Todd admitted she and others congressional candidates are being “very careful” on this.
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biggest understatement in news history.
claire mckaskill is the blanche lincoln of 2012. why even pretend?
the libs biggest hope is that she accepts the loss and doesn’t throw ‘obamacare is bad’ into the mix.
it gets worse…
senate dems will be voting, assuming that they lose the majority in 2012, on repealing the mandate, regardless of the potus outcome.
2014 senate election?
the only blue state gop’er is susan collins in maine.
but, red state dems?
(12) AK, AR, IA, LA, MT, NH, CO,NM, NC, SD, VA, and WV.
the millstone of obamacare, and a senate vote on the matter will pick up more casualites and defections than 2010.
[...] today, I’m sensing a dawning of hung-over awareness that is hitting folks on both the left and the right like a bright sliver of light that brings either the wincing pain of doubt or the [...]
Roberts played a good game of chess. Had he struck down the mandate, it would have increased Obama’s (and other dems) chances of reelection by taking this hugely unpopular issue off the table. If Obama did win, anything and everything Robert’s did would become irrelevant because Obama would get to pack the court with liberals like Sotomayor and Kagan whom will not respect the laws or the constitution.
The long-term aspect of the move was brilliant. I wonder if he waited until the last second so that Sotomayor and Kagan would not hav time to realize what hit them.
If so, he may have saved our Union with his suprise attack
repealing obamcare doesn’t solve our problems. better leaders are are only way out of this.
roberts delayed the repeal of the mandate for five months, pumped up the gop base for our ‘ABO’, and kept the MOST polarizing issue alive for this election, and subsequent elections.
the mandate is polling with a 65% dissapproval.
this is the strongest wind at the back of the gop, ever.
no single gop idea has ever been as popular.
remove it, and romney would have collapsed.
glad it looms like the sword of damocles over the voters, especially the independents.
McClellan only lasted six days. He had already abandoned his army before the victory at Malvern Hill. He spent the day cruising the river on a gunboat, probably planning his campaign as the pro-slavery candidate for the Democratic nomination for president.
[...] pols have been running away from him for a year, black voters are hesitating over Gay Marriage, the Obamacare decision while painted as a victory has energized the tea party activists, and the once vaunted Obama money [...]
[...] wrist-slitty, today, I’m sensing a dawning of hung-over awareness; it’s hitting folks on both the left and the right like a bright sliver of light and it’s bringing either the wincing pain of doubt or [...]
Since most people hate Obamacare, and this questionable court decision puts it right back on the front burner, this can be a good issue for Romney. But Romney cannot close the deal until he has an answer to the constant dem attack I keep hearing, that Obamacare is just another version of Romneycare. I think I have a good answer here, but it will not work until Romney and his surrogates are willing to say it.
What Romney should say about this follows:
“The dems have often said that the plan for MA and Obamacare are the same thing. Let me explain here why they are wrong. First keep in mind that MA is far to the left of the rest of the nation, with an 80% dem legislature, and the views and desires of the people of MA are not the same as the rest of the nation. That is the choice of the people of MA, and as governor I had to respect that choice. As president, I will represent the entire country, not just MA. And the country as whole does not want this type of plan, especially when it is run from a huge distant burocracy in DC, that overides the wishes of individual states and citizens with a one size fits all approach. I will do everything I can to reflect the wishes of the people in the entire country, and repeal this bill. President Obama may beleive that what is good for MA is good for the rest of the contry, and everything can be run from DC, I do not. The choice is clear.”
Then Romney surrogates should respond to the dem attack as follows:
“Gov Romney has already said that what might be good and popular for the people of MA, run in MA, may not be either popular or good when imposed on the entire country, and run by a huge burocracy in DC. The fact that you dems cannot recognize the distinction between a choice mady by a state, and a one sized fits all approach imposed from DC, is a major problem with the entire dem governing philosophy.”
I beleive this approach would completely destroy the dem “Romney did it in MA too” attack, and turn it around into a good attack on the dems. It would also establish Romney as supporting the very good principle of federalism, and leaving decisions like this with the states.
You could almost hear the cussing from red-state Democrat Senators: “Oh #(*O@&$, *#&-ing @*$&, they upheld it! AS A TAX!! *(&@#$YY!!!!!”
Todd admitted she and others congressional candidates are being “very careful” on this.
**************
biggest understatement in news history.
claire mckaskill is the blanche lincoln of 2012. why even pretend?
the libs biggest hope is that she accepts the loss and doesn’t throw ‘obamacare is bad’ into the mix.
it gets worse…
senate dems will be voting, assuming that they lose the majority in 2012, on repealing the mandate, regardless of the potus outcome.
2014 senate election?
the only blue state gop’er is susan collins in maine.
but, red state dems?
(12) AK, AR, IA, LA, MT, NH, CO,NM, NC, SD, VA, and WV.
the millstone of obamacare, and a senate vote on the matter will pick up more casualites and defections than 2010.
[...] today, I’m sensing a dawning of hung-over awareness that is hitting folks on both the left and the right like a bright sliver of light that brings either the wincing pain of doubt or the [...]
Roberts played a good game of chess. Had he struck down the mandate, it would have increased Obama’s (and other dems) chances of reelection by taking this hugely unpopular issue off the table. If Obama did win, anything and everything Robert’s did would become irrelevant because Obama would get to pack the court with liberals like Sotomayor and Kagan whom will not respect the laws or the constitution.
The long-term aspect of the move was brilliant. I wonder if he waited until the last second so that Sotomayor and Kagan would not hav time to realize what hit them.
If so, he may have saved our Union with his suprise attack
agreed.
repealing obamcare doesn’t solve our problems. better leaders are are only way out of this.
roberts delayed the repeal of the mandate for five months, pumped up the gop base for our ‘ABO’, and kept the MOST polarizing issue alive for this election, and subsequent elections.
the mandate is polling with a 65% dissapproval.
this is the strongest wind at the back of the gop, ever.
no single gop idea has ever been as popular.
remove it, and romney would have collapsed.
glad it looms like the sword of damocles over the voters, especially the independents.
I don’t know that he was pro-slavery. He was pro-Mc
clellan. It was all about him, always.
RE: McClellan and the seven days
McClellan only lasted six days. He had already abandoned his army before the victory at Malvern Hill. He spent the day cruising the river on a gunboat, probably planning his campaign as the pro-slavery candidate for the Democratic nomination for president.
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