Guns and Chick-Fil-A a matter of trust

by Datechguy | July 27th, 2012

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Guns and Chick-Fil-A a matter of trust

I have heard a lot of peo­ple on the left self right­eously com­plain that con­ser­v­a­tives are unwill­ing to agree to “com­mon sense gun con­trol” that we are unrea­son­able fanat­ics who would oppose restric­tions on the own­er­ship of Sher­man Tanks.

Most of all; we are totally wrong to believe that the left is after our guns just because of the pro­posed assault weapon ban.

Why would we have such a belief, how can the folks on the right even think we on the left are after their guns, all their guns?

The answer: Chick-​Fil-​A

Twenty years ago there was nobody NOBODY nation­ally who was push­ing the idea of gay mar­riage. If Bill Clin­ton had come out for Gay Mar­riage in 1992 he would have lost 49 states.

Then came the VT Supreme Court rul­ing requir­ing civil partnerships.

When peo­ple sug­gested that this was going to lead to Gay Mar­riage lib­er­als insisted they were alarmist. Nobody in the main­stream was push­ing Gay Mar­riage and the whole argu­ment was absurd. This was just address­ing inher­i­tance and hos­pi­tal vis­i­ta­tion issues which were not unreasonable.

In 1996 the defense of Mar­riage Act was pro­posed, at the time it was sug­gested that instead of a law, a con­sti­tu­tional amend­ment for­mally declar­ing Mar­riage was between a man or Woman should be passed. Such peo­ple were dis­missed as alarmists. Nobody was talk­ing about legal­iz­ing Gay Mar­riage and there was absolutely no need of a Con­sti­tu­tional Amend­ment to define a word the mean­ing of which the nation had under­stood for cen­turies.

No amend­ment was forth­com­ing but DOMA passed 85 – 14 in the Sen­ate & 342 – 67 in the house. Democ­rats over­whelm­ingly sup­ported the bill (3214 sen­ate & 188 – 65 house). Bill Clin­ton signed the bill into law and that was that.

Until for the third time a lib­eral State (Mass­a­chu­setts) by a 4 – 3 rul­ing declared Gay Mar­riage Legal. Again we were told not to worry, the legal­ity of Gay Mar­riage was just a ques­tion of equal­ity and it wouldn’t make any dif­fer­ence in the lives of those who opposed it.

Then came the per­se­cu­tion of par­ents who opposed it.

Then came the Catholic Church being given a choice, vio­late your beliefs or stop plac­ing chil­dren for adop­tion: never mind how well you place the chil­dren hard­est to find homes for.

And as the sup­port­ers of Gay Mar­riage lost vote after vote after vote (and con­tinue to block any vote in Mass­a­chu­setts) they became louder and more vit­ri­olic even to the point of assault

Look at mem­o­ran­dum on given day. Any per­son who opposes Gay Mar­riage is not defined as against “Gay Mar­riage” they are defined as “anti-​gay” a bigot.

And now comes the May­ors of two large cities, Chicago & Boston, declar­ing pub­licly that Chick-​fil-​a is not wel­come. That Chick-​fil-​a for dar­ing to have Bib­li­cal prin­ci­ples and sup­port them have no place in their civ­i­lized cities.

And if Chick-​Fil-​A is guilty then so is every Catholic Church, every Ortho­dox Church, Every Mosque (well appar­ently not Every Mosque) and the vast major­ity of Protes­tant Churches in the coun­try, (at least the ones that are grow­ing). If they are not wel­come nei­ther is the busi­ness of any per­son of faith who doesn’t bend to the pres­sure media and money can pro­vide, a pres­sure that the Pres­i­dent wilted against.

We have reached the point from the legal­ity of Gay Mar­riage in Mass­a­chu­setts, to the Mayor of the largest city in the Com­mon­wealth pub­licly declar­ing in effect: If your busi­ness dare oppose the lib­eral polit­i­cally cor­rect posi­tion , your enter­prise doesn’t belong in our enlight­ened city.

This has hap­pened in the space of a decade, after being assured that “Gay Mar­riage” would have no effect on any­one else.

So when you on the left tell us, assure us, and promise us that if we on the right agree to just a lit­tle bit of Gun Con­trol, you have our word that we have no designs on your per­sonal firearms or any­thing else, you’ll par­don us for declaring:

You Lie!

If we are stu­pid enough to believe you on gun con­trol then we deserve to lose the rights we are fight­ing to defend.

Update: Insta­lanche, thanks Glenn, Stay tuned for my visit to the near­est Chick-​Fil-​A (Had to go to NH to do it). Remem­ber tomor­row 10 a.m. Clay­ton Cramer will be on DaT­e­chGuy on daRa­dio talk­ing his new book and in the sec­ond hour call 888 – 9-​fedora and you can talk Chick-​Fil-​A and guns with me directly on WCRM AM 830

Update 2: So it’s the Bigot card now eh, OK two can play at that game

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DaTechGuy’s fundraiser con­tin­ues and as you can see by the ther­mome­ter your $10 & $20 is needed to keep things going as there is not a bunch of Koch money in the till for the record if the Koch broth­ers or rich con­ser­v­a­tives want to kick in and get me to our $3000 goal and beyond , I’m a cap­i­tal­ist, I’ll take it!




I have heard a lot of people on the left self righteously complain that conservatives are unwilling to agree to “common sense gun control” that we  are unreasonable fanatics who would oppose restrictions on the ownership of Sherman Tanks.

Most of all; we are totally wrong to believe that the left is after our guns just because of the proposed assault weapon ban.

Why would we have such a belief, how can the folks on the right even think we on the left are after their guns, all their guns?

The answer: Chick-Fil-A

Twenty years ago there was nobody NOBODY nationally who was pushing the idea of gay marriage. If Bill Clinton had come out for Gay Marriage in 1992 he would have lost 49 states.

Then came the VT Supreme Court ruling requiring civil partnerships.

When people suggested that this was going to lead to Gay Marriage liberals insisted they were alarmist. Nobody in the mainstream was pushing Gay Marriage and the whole argument was absurd.  This was just addressing inheritance and hospital visitation issues which were not unreasonable.

In 1996 the defense of Marriage Act was proposed, at the time it was suggested that instead of a law, a constitutional amendment formally declaring Marriage was between a man or Woman should be passed. Such people were dismissed as alarmists. Nobody was talking about legalizing Gay Marriage and there was absolutely no need of a Constitutional Amendment to define a word the meaning of which  the nation had understood for centuries.

No amendment was forthcoming but DOMA passed 85–14 in the Senate & 342–67 in the house.  Democrats overwhelmingly supported the bill (32-14 senate & 188-65 house). Bill Clinton signed the bill into law and that was that.

Until for the third time a liberal State (Massachusetts) by a 4-3 ruling declared Gay Marriage Legal. Again we were told not to worry, the legality of Gay Marriage was just a question of equality and it wouldn’t make any difference in the lives of those who opposed it.

Then came the persecution of parents who opposed it.

Then came the Catholic Church being given a choice, violate your beliefs or stop placing children for adoption: never mind how well you place the children hardest to find homes for.

And as the supporters of Gay Marriage lost vote after vote after vote (and continue to block any vote in Massachusetts) they became louder and more vitriolic even to the point of assault

Look at memorandum on given day. Any person who opposes Gay Marriage is not defined as against “Gay Marriage” they are defined as “anti-gay” a bigot.

And now comes the Mayors of two large cities, Chicago & Boston, declaring publicly that Chick-fil-a is not welcome. That Chick-fil-a for daring to have Biblical principles and support them have no place in their civilized cities.

And if Chick-Fil-A is guilty then so is every Catholic Church, every Orthodox Church, Every Mosque (well apparently not Every Mosque) and the vast majority of Protestant Churches in the country, (at least the ones that are growing).   If they are not welcome neither is the business of any person of faith who doesn’t bend to the pressure media and money can provide, a pressure that the President wilted against.

We have reached the point from the legality of Gay Marriage in Massachusetts, to the Mayor of the largest city in the Commonwealth publicly declaring in effect:  If your business dare oppose the liberal politically correct position , your enterprise doesn’t belong in our enlightened city.

This has happened in the space of a decade, after being assured that “Gay Marriage” would have no effect on anyone else.

So when you on the left tell us, assure us, and promise us that if we on the right agree to just a little bit of Gun Control, you have our word that we have no designs on your personal firearms or anything else, you’ll pardon us for declaring:

You Lie!

If we are stupid enough to believe you on gun control then we deserve to lose the rights we are fighting to defend.

Update: Instalanche, thanks Glenn, Stay tuned for my visit to the nearest Chick-Fil-A (Had to go to NH to do it). Remember tomorrow 10 a.m. Clayton Cramer will be on DaTechGuy on daRadio talking his new book and in the second hour call 888-9-fedora and you can talk Chick-Fil-A and guns with me directly on WCRM AM 830

Update 2: So it’s the Bigot card now eh, OK two can play at that game

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