If only Leni Riefenstahl was a Communist like Pete Seeger…

by Datechguy | January 28th, 2014

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If only Leni Riefenstahl was a Communist like Pete Seeger...

…per­haps Morn­ing Joe & the MSM would have remem­bered & cel­e­brated her the day she died as they did Pete Seeger today.

Mr. Seeger’s career car­ried him from singing at labor ral­lies to the Top 10 to col­lege audi­to­ri­ums to folk fes­ti­vals, and from a con­vic­tion for con­tempt of Con­gress (after defy­ing the House Un-​American Activ­i­ties Com­mit­tee in the 1950s) to per­form­ing on the steps of the Lin­coln Memo­r­ial at an inau­gural con­cert for Barack Obama.

For Mr. Seeger, folk music and a sense of com­mu­nity were insep­a­ra­ble, and where he saw a com­mu­nity, he saw the pos­si­bil­ity of polit­i­cal action.

Pete Seeger defended com­mu­nism dur­ing the cold war and aided our ene­mies at a time when Amer­i­cans were fighting.

Dur­ing that same time Com­mu­nism slaugh­tered 100 mil­lion peo­ple liv­ing under it and enslaved hun­dreds of mil­lions more.

On the show they men­tioned Seeger as a “Com­mu­nist with a small ‘c’ ” Per­haps Demo­c­rat National Com­mit­tee mem­ber Bill Con­nor should have described him­self as a “KKK mem­ber with a small ‘k’ ” or Riefen­stahl as a “Nazi with a small ‘n’ “?

I will acknowl­edge his skill as a singer & a song­writer and influ­ence on Amer­i­can Music those are his­tor­i­cal facts but I would no more cel­e­brate his life than I would Riefenstahl

I’ll close with an exchange I had on twit­ter with a per­son defend­ing those who are communists:

Remem­ber there is no ide­ol­ogy so mur­der­ous that your asso­ci­a­tion with it will make you unac­cept­able as long as you are of use to the left.

Update: Iowahawk:

As Pope Fran­cis con­tin­u­ally reminds us the mercy of God is avail­able for all those who seek it sin­cerely and need­ing mercy myself I would be delighted if Mr. Seeger or any per­son seeks and receives the same mercy I hope for at the hour of death from God. There is how­ever a huge dif­fer­ence between hop­ing for a soul’s sal­va­tion at death and using the desire as an rea­son to cel­e­brate and excuse hor­ri­ble decisions/​associations made by some­one in life. Update 2: Amer­i­can Power blog:

His­to­rian Ronald Radosh writes: “Through­out the 1950’s and 1960’s, Seeger called for peace, peace­ful co-​existence between the United States and the Soviet Union, singing songs like Put My Name Down, Brother, Where Do I Sign? — a bal­lad in favor of the Soviet Union’s phony inter­na­tional peace peti­tion that favored uni­lat­eral dis­ar­ma­ment by the West while leav­ing the Soviet atomic stock­pile intact. He would sing and give his sup­port to peace ral­lies and marches covertly spon­sored by the Soviet Union and its West­ern front groups and dupes — while leav­ing his polit­i­cal crit­i­cism only for the United States and its defen­sive actions dur­ing the Cold War.”

If you are enabling the Soviet Empire that mur­dered mil­lions and enslaved even more with­out cri­tique and doing their dirty work for them denials of your sup­port for them ring hollow.

Update 3: Insta­lanche I won­der if Car­los Hen­riquez the Boston Demo­c­rat still serv­ing in the Mass House 568 days after his arrest & 14 days after his con­vic­tion for Assault­ing a woman who refused him sex is tak­ing notes that if you sup­port the right side polit­i­cally any­thing can be ignored, even a war on women.

Update 4: Amer­i­can Power links and get the full treat­ment from the left includ­ing this clas­sic tweet:

The 100+ Mil­lion slaugh­tered under Com­mu­nism dur­ing Mr. Seeger’s life­time could not be reached for comment.

Update 5: Speak­ing of Nazi’s via the Exam­iner:

Pete Seeger song on involve­ment in WW 2 before the Nazi’s attacked the USSR:

Franklin D, lis­ten to me,
You ain’t a-​gonna send me ‘cross the sea.
You may say it’s for defense
That kinda talk ain’t got no sense.

Pete Seeger song after Hitler invaded the USSR

Now, Mr. Pres­i­dent
You’re commander-​in-​chief of our armed forces
The ships and the planes and the tanks and the horses
I guess you know best just where I can fight …
So what I want is you to give me a gun
So we can hurry up and get the job done!

Coin­ci­dence I’m sure.

Update 6 Rick Moran writes at the Amer­i­can Thinker writes:

But for many of us, we can look beyond his mis­guided, even child­ish notions of pol­i­tics to glory in his music.

Thomas Lif­son responds:

Sorry, but he was an unre­pen­tant com­mu­nist. He was part of a move­ment that saw art as a ser­vant of pol­i­tics, so that is how[sic] his art must be judged. I would no more honor or mourn Seeger than I would an unre­pen­tant “small ‘n’ Nazi.”

I’m like that with the Adven­tures of Robin Hood TV series. I enjoy it but have con­tempt for those who wrote it.

Update 7: Reader Richard Shu­ford notes this sen­tence “sup­ports the right side” and thinks I should clar­ify that by “right side” I mean “the side the media /​left thinks is cor­rect or ‘right”

So noted

Update 8: Ed Driscol links

Update 9: Linked by Jim Lund­gren at the Wash­ing­ton Post the new home of the Volokh Con­spir­acy who remem­bers a par­tic­u­lar per­for­mance attack­ing LBJ on the Smoth­ers broth­ers show:

I guess part of what I like about his per­for­mance of “Waist Deep” is that here he sings as if he really means it.

Well of COURSE he really meant it, the United State was at war with A com­mu­nist régime backed by the USSR he knew what side he was on.

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…perhaps Morning Joe & the MSM would have remembered & celebrated her the day she died as they did Pete Seeger today.

Mr. Seeger’s career carried him from singing at labor rallies to the Top 10 to college auditoriums to folk festivals, and from a conviction for contempt of Congress (after defying the House Un-American Activities Committee in the 1950s) to performing on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial at an inaugural concert for Barack Obama.

For Mr. Seeger, folk music and a sense of community were inseparable, and where he saw a community, he saw the possibility of political action.

Pete Seeger defended communism during the cold war and aided our enemies at a time when Americans were fighting.

During that same time Communism slaughtered 100 million people living under it and enslaved hundreds of millions more.

On the show they mentioned Seeger as a “Communist with a small ‘c’ ” Perhaps Democrat National Committee member Bill Connor should have described himself as a “KKK member with a small ‘k’ ” or Riefenstahl as a “Nazi with a small ‘n’ “?

I will acknowledge his skill as a singer & a songwriter and influence on American Music those are historical facts but I would no more celebrate his life than I would Riefenstahl

I’ll close with an exchange I had on twitter with a person defending those who are communists:

 

Remember there is no ideology so murderous that your association with it will make you unacceptable as long as you are of use to the left.

Update: Iowahawk:

As Pope Francis continually reminds us the mercy of God is available for all those who seek it sincerely and needing mercy myself I would be delighted if Mr. Seeger or any person seeks and receives the same mercy I hope for at the hour of death from God. There is however a huge difference between hoping for a soul’s salvation at death and using the desire as an reason to celebrate and excuse horrible decisions/associations made by someone in life. Update 2: American Power blog:

Historian Ronald Radosh writes: “Throughout the 1950’s and 1960’s, Seeger called for peace, peaceful co-existence between the United States and the Soviet Union, singing songs like Put My Name Down, Brother, Where Do I Sign? — a ballad in favor of the Soviet Union’s phony international peace petition that favored unilateral disarmament by the West while leaving the Soviet atomic stockpile intact. He would sing and give his support to peace rallies and marches covertly sponsored by the Soviet Union and its Western front groups and dupes — while leaving his political criticism only for the United States and its defensive actions during the Cold War.”

If you are enabling the Soviet Empire that murdered millions and enslaved even more without critique and doing their dirty work for them denials of your support for them ring hollow.

Update 3: Instalanche I wonder if Carlos Henriquez the Boston Democrat still serving in the Mass House 568 days after his arrest & 14 days after his conviction for Assaulting a woman who refused him sex is taking notes that if you support the right side politically anything can be ignored, even a war on women.

Update 4: American Power links and get the full treatment from the left including this classic tweet:

 

The 100+ Million slaughtered under Communism during Mr. Seeger’s lifetime could not be reached for comment.

 

Update 5: Speaking of Nazi’s via the Examiner:

Pete Seeger song on involvement in WW 2 before the Nazi’s attacked the USSR:

Franklin D, listen to me,
You ain’t a-gonna send me ‘cross the sea.
You may say it’s for defense
That kinda talk ain’t got no sense.

Pete Seeger song after Hitler invaded the USSR

Now, Mr. President
You’re commander-in-chief of our armed forces
The ships and the planes and the tanks and the horses
I guess you know best just where I can fight …
So what I want is you to give me a gun
So we can hurry up and get the job done!

Coincidence I’m sure.

Update 6:  Rick Moran writes at the American Thinker writes:

But for many of us, we can look beyond his misguided, even childish notions of politics to glory in his music.

Thomas Lifson responds:

Sorry, but he was an unrepentant communist. He was part of a movement that saw art as a servant of politics, so that is how[sic] his art must be judged. I would no more honor or mourn Seeger than I would an unrepentant “small ‘n’ Nazi.”

I’m like that with the Adventures of Robin Hood TV series.  I enjoy it but have contempt for those who wrote it.

Update 7:  Reader Richard Shuford notes this sentence “supports the right side” and thinks I should clarify that by “right side” I mean “the side the media / left thinks is correct or ‘right”

So noted

Update 8: Ed Driscol links

Update 9: Linked by Jim Lundgren at the Washington Post the new home of the Volokh Conspiracy who remembers a particular performance attacking LBJ on the Smothers brothers show:

I guess part of what I like about his performance of “Waist Deep” is that here he sings as if he really means it.

Well of COURSE he really meant it, the United State was at war with A communist regime backed by the USSR he knew what side he was on.

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So I would ask you to consider hitting DaTipJar to get me a little ahead.

 

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